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      Facepaint? Some designs can confound facial recognition systems

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            Not a balaclava, but there are goggles and full-face masks that offer some protection. And even a balaclava is better than nothing against rubber bullets and bean bags.

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              I have been shot with a bean bag. Balaclava isn’t going to do shit. I was wearing a leather coat and almost my whole torso was deeply bruised.

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                It doesn’t help that cops purposefully misuse those types of guns. If I recall correctly, they’re supposed to “bounce” the round off the ground and into the target, reducing the total amount of force hitting the target since some of the impact will be reduced from the first impact on the ground.

                The number of cops who just shoot people straight with these things point blank is too god damned high. However, you can still get deeply fucked up, even if they’re using it “correctly.”

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                  not just straight at people, they have caught police, on video, intentionally getting within arms reach and shooting at the head.

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                I didn’t say it wouldn’t leave a bruise. Even solid armor plates won’t stop that amount of kinetic energy without leaving a mark. But having soft padding between the projectile and your skin will reduce the abrasion and force of low-angle impacts. “Better than nothing” in this case means the difference between a deep bruise, and a deep bruise under potentially an open and bleeding wound.

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                  I am saying that something as weak as a balaclava would not even accomplish this. If you have ever seen people get hit by these wearing hoodies, and the like, you will see they tear right through that shit like it isn’t even there. This is like trying to reduce the trauma of a hammer blow with a sheet of paper.

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          Nah. Dazzle pattern, or paint an extra nose and a few eyes.

          Now that I think about it, that is butterfly pattern isn’t it.

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        Protest is never peaceful, if it is you’re doing it wrong. It should be non-violent and as respectful as possible but it needs to be disruptive and you can’t be peacefully disruptive

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          Peaceful and non-violent are synonyms….

          You also contradict yourself as well. You say to be non-violent, then you say you can’t be peacefully disruptive… those contradict each other.

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        In the USA its because they use facial recognition and then decide to harass you for the next decade over every small infraction they can.

        Because nobody in a position of power would ever abuse that power! /s

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        There have been events where nazis show up to counter protest and film/photograph you to then share among themselves so they can attack you later.

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          Thats happening a lot lately in Germany. At every fucking Antifa protest at least one suspicious looking guy films with his handy. I honestly doubt, that they have the necessary skill and contact with other fascists in other cities to identify everybody, but I still don‘t want them to know my face

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        Masks are no indicator of criminality. The idea that bad protesters wear masks is complete horseshit. It serves to divide movements and prevent momentum from being gained. It seeks to dissolve solidarity that couls have been gained at the protests.

        Masks allow peaceful protests to remain peaceful if they prevent the violence of the justice system. Sometimes protesters and organizers are simply arrested and thrown in jail for a bit, sometimes even given nonsense charges, which is something that happens to organizers and some protesters in my area.

        As well as that, masks can simply be good secops in some counter-protests such as protesting against fascist marches, gatherings, etc. If I’m showing up to show nazis or boogaloos or proud boys that they are unwelcome, the last thing I want is a violent right wing extremist group to try and doxx me. If I’m escorting people to a drag-queen story hour, I don’t want fascists to doxx me.

        It’s also smart in some areas, such as Harvard’s campus where organizers are constantly doxxed and accused of antisemitism even though they are not.

        Finally, what if the government makes your particular movement illegal? What if they start throwing the book people, accusing everyone involved(or at least the ones they can catch) of domestic terrorism? Wearing a mask will make it a lot easier for you to maintain your freedom when faced with the tyrrany of the state.

        Also, masks look cool, and that’s a pretty good reason imo.

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        “Peaceful protest” is the ideal they push because it doesn’t work. If it worked it wouldn’t be praised. They don’t want change.