The Gulf Stream plays a significant role in maintaining the climate of the US East Coast and Western Europe. “We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years.” The full study is Here

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    Everywhere I look everything is getting fucked to death. Insects, fish, entire ecosystems, entire climates, entire regions near the equator, all FUCKED.

    Then my uncle says “how come it’s getting colder some places, I thought the globe was supposed to be warming! Hahahah”

    At least he can arguably not give a fuck. He is rich and has no kids. I don’t get why the poors on the right side of the spectrum are so willing to parrot this idiotic bullshit though, don’t they realize their 600 even-poorer grandchildren are FUCKED?

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      don’t they realize their 600 even-poorer grandchildren are FUCKED?

      No. The effort to make that unclear has been very successful.

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      People with poor education are poor at spotting idiotic bullshit. Also there are other factors why people believe things. We aren’t that rational.

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        It jives with how they see Trump as a “Godly, Christian man.” According to recent polls, they view him as more “Christian” than Mike fucking Pence.

        I wonder if part of it is that belief begets belief? They believe in Trump because he believes so deeply in himself and they identify with that?

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        As a very religious person until my 20s, I have brought up this idea to multiple people lol. My depressed-ass brain was like, why tf don’t we just rush to heaven instead?..

        I can ASSURE you, the “it’ll all be 100% fine when you’re dead” has killed so many people’s drives to be a good person.

        The planet is fucked because this 40% of USA voters don’t give one flying fuck about future generations.

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          I remember a case where a mother killed her two young kids because she wanted them to go to heaven. Her reasoning was that if they grew up and became sinners they would end up in hell. By murdering them before they knew what sin was she actually saved them. Thing is, if you believe in that shit then what she did really makes perfect sense.

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            That’s what I’ll ask christian mothers from now on.

            “If you really love your children how come you didn’t smother them immediately after their baptism?”

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              A horrible, horrible mental image entered my mind: a priest dunking an infant into the baptismal font during a baptism ceremony and then proceeding smoothly to a requiem prayer as the infant drowns in holy water.

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                They’ve drowned babies doing baptisms before… if you look online you can find some CRAZY violent orthodox baptisms out of russia and the like. They dunk them babies like a goddamn basketball. Baby pulling mad g forces.

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                  I would have wished my horrible mental image was just a figment of my imagination, lol! Reality is stranger than fiction, indeed.

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          This is literally why suicide was made a mortal sin. Early Christians were killing themselves to get to heaven and the clergy of the time made it a sin because dead Christians pay no tithes.

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          Excuse me, I said hey rude ass, I’ve never used Tumblr. So, why don’t you tell me what this is then, tell me so I can fall in line with your expectations.

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            Putting emojis every other letter is a sign of Tumblr cancer. Don’t do that if you want to be taken seriously.

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              I wasn’t serious when I said I’d fall in line behind you. Emojis on are a world wide phenomenon. If it doesn’t appeal to you then move on. Are you this controlling and intolerant irl? Or are you just petty online? Since you seem to lack social nuance, I’ll be clear, I don’t really care by asking these questions. I am asking you to ask yourself. Pettiness and coercion are also a social cancer

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    Robust Weakening of the Gulf Stream During the Past Four Decades Observed in the Florida Straits https://doi.org/10.1029/2023GL105170

    Plain Language Summary

    The Gulf Stream is a major ocean current located off the East Coast of the United States. It carries a tremendous amount of seawater and along with it heat, carbon, and other ocean constituents. Because of this, the Gulf Stream plays an important role in weather and climate, influencing phenomena as seemingly unrelated as sea level along coastal Florida and temperature and precipitation over continental Europe. Given how important this ocean current is to science and society, scientists have tried to determine whether the Gulf Stream has undergone significant changes under global warming, but so far, they have not reached a firm conclusion. Here we report our effort to synthesize available Gulf Stream observations from the Florida Straits near Miami, and to assess whether and how the Gulf Stream transport there has changed since 1982. We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years, the first conclusive, unambiguous observational evidence that this ocean current has undergone significant change in the recent past. Future studies should try to identify the cause of this change.

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      Rise in sea levels on the east coast, reduced rain in the east coast, stronger storms, and more precipitation in Europe and the tropics. According to wiki.

      I think it’ll also make some areas cold as fuck and probably heat up the gulf.

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        Western Europe will get pretty fucked without it, We’re much further north than people realise. The Netherlands is further north than Calgary, Canada

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      The consequences are unpredictable. More extreme weather is about the only certainty.

      The energy of the heat transfer will not just be missing in Europe. It’ll also be in excess in the Caribbeans, perhaps creating stronger winds worldwide.

      Imagine a house with water radiators, where you turn off the circulation pump while keeping the furnace on full blast. It’s gotta go somewhere.

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        Maybe the warming and freezing will cancel out and the much smaller islands that will be left after the sea levels rise will still be temperate and worth living on.

        Edit: This is not an “I’m alright, Jack” comment. I’d rather this wasn’t even a vague possibility and that the planet wasn’t warming out of control.

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          Maybe the warming and freezing will cancel out and the much smaller islands that will be left after the sea levels rise will still be temperate and worth living on.

          Maybe, but food and water will be extremely scarce. We can’t all just up and move. You and I will almost certainly die of starvation.

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        So’s Norway - quite a few places on the west coast (the most inhabited non-Oslo part of the country) rely on the fact that the gulf stream keeps them unusually warm for their latitude

        I’m already seeing things that would normally grow fine out in the garden suffer from abnormally late and early frosts and mild summers. Rip my tomatos and onions. Everyone’s complaining about 20+ degree springs in the mainland while I’m screaming that it’s still snowing in late May.

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          Oof, I’m sorry to hear about your veggies :(

          I hope it doesn’t collapse, it would mean a lot of displaced people and loss of life.

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      East coast of Canada and US will become arid. Caribbean will become hotter and storms will become more severe. Scotland, Ireland, Iceland, and Norway will be substantially colder (compare latitude of UK with Northern Canada) and with less precipitation. Basically, everywhere that relies on warm tropical moist air currents will drastically change.

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      Europe is at the latitude of Canada, it lacks Canada’s climate gradient because of the Gulf stream

      We 'bouta see Siberia stretch its way to the Elbe!

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      What will be the consequences to this?

      It will have to be renamed to the Gulf Trickle.

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            That’s just Germany. I don’t think the anti-nuclear sentiment is that popular elsewhere. Finland just started a new reactor, granted we began bulding it already back in 2005.

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            France is still gangster with it. But the rest of Europe pretends that it’s greener to buy oil from Russia.

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            It’s not green enough for the ecofascists who’d rather have coal than nuclear, but we still have nuclear.

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      gonna need some serious convincing not to put every single person who works for a fossil fuel company in the pit too tbh

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    I welcome the decrease in temperature, but it would be great if it weren’t connected to the earth being irreparably fucked. One winter at -40 (C or F) and people will start moving south and I might actually be able to afford to buy a house.

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    I was hoping the silver lining of climate change would be hotter weather here in Ireland. Shit.

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    Oh well, we had a good innings there didn’t we?

    Still, I’m in my 40s now, so if it doesn’t completely collapse for about 50 years or so I’m pretty sure I won’t have to worry about it.

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      I have no idea what you’re talking about. New York City just got 4-8” of rain in a single day. No droughts or fires there!

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    Seeing this, i kinda hope that it happens as fast as possible. That way the rich will see exactly what they’ve done, and maybe we’ll manage to get some revenge

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      Hundreds of millions will die and hundreds of millions more will suffer, and the rich will care as much as they do right now

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      Yeah, force the rich to see all the poor people dying from their ivory towers. I’m sure they’ll suddenly start worrying about other people’s suffering.

      /s

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        Ivory towers are still capable of being seiged

        Many governments have fallen over the years because they forgot that they only have a thin veil of control over their people