• Fredselfish @lemmy.ml
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    Sorry to hear about your acquaintance. Fuck nazi and thank you we need people to make sure we keep them the fuck out. Fuck nazi and I believe it’s only time punching someone wouldn’t be considered violent since to me a nazi isn’t a person our worth being considered human. But fucking monsters.

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        There’s a difference between “I don’t respect this person’s humanity” based on traits they were born with versus active choices and decisions that person has made. I would define one of the core human traits as care and empathy for others, and I don’t think Nazis demonstrate that trait

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          They don’t. Neither do most CEO and all billionaires. They have no empathy and in some cases enjoy causing suffering. Especially on those they deem lesser than themselves.

          To me that makes them not human. But nazis are whole other beast and I think it perfectly fine to shoot them into the sun.

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            I think it’s important to remember that these monsters are all too human.

            It’s still good to shoot them into the Sun.

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            I’m not going to join your ride on the slippery slope of dehumanization. You need to get to grips with the reallity that your rosy fiction of what humans should be is not what humans are. Your jump to dehumanization is a perfect illustration of a not so nice human trait that enabled some of the most horrible episodes of human history. Be better than that.

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              Are we dicussing the same thing here? I am talking about Nazis and no one except for nazis should disagree with me on how they should be treated and dealt with. Thank you very much. I don’t care if I hurt thier fucking fee fees. Fuck Nazis and only good one is a dead one. Punch a nazi in the face.

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                No we, are not. Because you use Nazi colloquially as a slur for people right of you who you don’t agree with. I use Nazi correctly to refer to NSDAP members. As you want Nazis dead, I can reassure you, because 99.999% are. The literal hand full of Nazis still living is 97+ years old.

                It should be abundently clear from what I wrote, that I’m critizing dehumanizing generally and without exception.

                Fuck █████ and only good one is a dead one. Punch a █████ in the face.

                Fill in the blanks randomly and see what’s wrong with it. My point is, it’s always wrong. I’m not defending Nazi-ideology or neo-Nazis (I am very opposed to both), I’m critisizing you and others for participating in dehumanization. And I’m pointing out, that your way of talking about them is ironic (and tragic), because dehumanization was a core part of Nazi ideology and strategy.

                Fyi: My quote of you with the blanks would be considered a call for violence and Volksverhetzung (hard to translate, but “incitement of the people” comes closest) in Germany. There just was a public case where leftists were convicted because their extreme words were followed by extreme actions.

                And I’d really like to know, what you think the implementation of “Fuck Nazis and only good one is a dead one” could, would, or should be!? Hunt them down like animals? Just every citizen shooting them on sight? Putting them in concentration camps and create some Endlösung (final solution ⟶ gas chamber)?

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            Calling anyone living today a Nazi is wrong to begin with.

            I appreciate that you started off your post with the stupidest possible thing you could say so that everybody knows they don’t need to waste time reading the rest.

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              You might want to look up the term neo-Nazi and learn why there is a distinction between it and the term Nazi. Your display of ignorance is indicative of that you really should read my “post” (it’s a comment) in its entirety.

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                    I don’t dehumanize anybody. I just correctly recognize the threat that bigotry poses to society, especially if allowed to grow and gain power. That threat is very much human and we can never allow ourselves to forget that. Evil tends to be very banal.

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            Good job using the bullshit “Nazis are socialists” lie, that way it’s easy to ignore you.

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              I never said that the Nazis were socialists (as we would define socialist today). I said “social” was part of their name (NSDAP, S ⟶ Sozialistisch) and not just a hollow word at that, which is a historic fact, whether you like it or not.

              If your take from what I wrote is “Nazis are socialists”, you should improve on your reading skills.