Yeah, like, even as fungi best case you connect a vast rainforest and provide communication and transportation services (also for sharing forest memes) … only to be keenly aware at all moments of how pollution, deforestation, and climate change is damaging the forest in real time. Yeah, no.
Even if I were an undead virus (a virus that is dead-ish, not a virus causing undead humans to pollute the planet even after death) I wouldn’t know how to (re)arrange my genome to target some apes.
Bacterium is peak lifeform, just settle into a literal rock, sleep a few billion years.
I am not saying bacteria are conscious. I am saying that as a fungus (or bacterium), you wouldn’t be aware of environmental collapse because you wouldn’t be aware of anything. You wouldn’t suffer.
Are you seriously trying to argue that fungi have a level of consciousness or sentience because they have simple chemical processes that guide their growth based on external stimulus?
I suppose you must also believe that growing Chorus Plants in Minecraft are self-aware because they don’t grow through blocks.
Yeah, like, even as fungi best case you connect a vast rainforest and provide communication and transportation services (also for sharing forest memes) … only to be keenly aware at all moments of how pollution, deforestation, and climate change is damaging the forest in real time. Yeah, no.
Even if I were an undead virus (a virus that is dead-ish, not a virus causing undead humans to pollute the planet even after death) I wouldn’t know how to (re)arrange my genome to target some apes.
Bacterium is peak lifeform, just settle into a literal rock, sleep a few billion years.
Not all fungi connect rainforests. You could be a unicellular fungus like a yeast.
Oj, yeah, gonna make some yogurt & get to see billions of my bros in someone’s gut! What acid swamp with no sunlight?? This isn’t Dank Souls.
Or maybe I help make some bread. That will make someone really happy, they would never burn me alive. (Really, a lava lake level?)
Maybe floating in the sky amongst my sky bacteria fellows. I’ll just get really good at rolling away from UV rays.
Oh … there is also this … With my luck, I’ll be displaying porn the whole incarnation.
There is no evidence to suggest that fungi are conscious.
Well, same for humans, there is no way we are this stupid. Just a bunch of natural algorithms and instincts.
(Also you saying that bacteria are “conscious”? What does that even mean? We all make active decisions all the time.)
I am not saying bacteria are conscious. I am saying that as a fungus (or bacterium), you wouldn’t be aware of environmental collapse because you wouldn’t be aware of anything. You wouldn’t suffer.
But how do you know that anyone except yourself can suffer or ‘be aware’?
If fungi can make decisions based on data, isn’t that what we do with neurons?
Are you seriously trying to argue that fungi have a level of consciousness or sentience because they have simple chemical processes that guide their growth based on external stimulus?
I suppose you must also believe that growing Chorus Plants in Minecraft are self-aware because they don’t grow through blocks.