• pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe
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    9 months ago

    No thanks. I don’t want to be at the mercy of some driver who can and will deny people service however and for whatever reason they please.

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        9 months ago

        It sucks being justified in being afraid, yes. And I am very, very justified in my stance, not just by historical standards but through personal experience and experiences of the people I care about. Public transport is the pits and a last resort people are forced to be dependent on for poverty. It CAN’T be the way forward for our people.

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          You’re entitled to your incorrect opinion. I like mass transit for reasons like removing my need to pay attention for every second of a trip, for much reduced cost per mile, and for meeting/looking at interesting people.

          Most people seem to agree. You can’t move a coffee table on it (though I have, my apologies from a now-wisened teenager), but that’s what stuff like car share services can step in on.

          Who’s denying you service, and why? The driver is way at the front of the train, what are you on about?

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            9 months ago

            Yep, my lifetime of assault and harassment on public transit is just an incorrect opinion. Fuck my lived experiences and those of everyone else, the only perspective that matters is your own because all that matters is you getting what you want.

            Ugh. Just ugh.

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              Alright grumpy, calm down. I’ll repeat the question: what happened? That’s as much energy as I’m willing to give the weak crying.

              Literally 1.7 billion rides on the NYC subway system in 2019, it seems to work great for us. I dress in weird shiny rubber clothes sometimes while going to a party or whatever, I get looks of curiosity or derision from other passengers sometimes, and I don’t give a shit. Are you just that sensitive?

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                9 months ago

                Wow, holy shit, your best response is childish name calling and tone policing.

                Everyone, this is what abusive people do when they are willing to be immoral to get what they want. When faced with a legitimate grievance they can’t refute, they attack the person, in this case in the most blatantly childish way possible.

                Basically he knows forcing people to use public transit will cause innocent people to suffer more violence but he doesn’t care about that, he only cares about his feelings and he’s willing to force you to be beaten, assaulted, even killed to get his way.

                Think of your daughters and wives who would be groped, beaten, sexually assaulted, and murdered in the name of appeasing this hopeless retard, and then ignore him.

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                  I don’t agree with your conclusion that public transit is responsible for assault and murder.

                  What you are essentially suggesting is breaking up society and isolating everyone so people can’t harm each other. That is an extreme solution to this problem

                  You also forget about all the people suffering from cars: thousands of deaths each year (compared to how many in subways?) from accidents and pollution.

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                  Bro I’m upvoting this because of how hilariously sad this is 😂

                  Anyway, no biggie. Can’t answer what happened, a simple question.

                  Don’t come to big cities, we’re gonna charge you to drive your lifted dangling nutz grocery getter below 59th st, and laugh our asses off at your limp open carry chicken pistol. Real men and women live here, with and for each other.

                  Stay in Idaho or whatever, enjoy your “I’m scaewed” life 😂

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        9 months ago

        Ohh yes they can, and they do, all the time. Laws can’t protect people against their behavior because laws are enforced after the fact. Prevention is key here.

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          No they don’t. I have been taking public transit for decades too, and I’ve never heard of drivers refusing passengers. They just stop at each stop, like that’s their job?

          What you have experienced seems to be a local problem, yet you apply it to public transit in general, everywhere.

          I think your initial comment is also a strawman, because the meme never suggested banning cars. In fact you can see a car lane on the right. Having trams in a city doesn’t make you be at their mercy, you can instead ride a bike or a car if you want.

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          Self-driving future doesn’t seem to be that far away, and I imagine it to be even simpler on rails. Either way, the key is to get people off those nasty things they call “cars” and take it from there.

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              At this point I am not sure we are talking about the same thing. The picture in the post clearly represents European trams. I have not witnessed one argument with a driver despite using European public transport on a daily basis.