• rumschlumpel@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    Also: Compare Chris Hemsworth (who usually stars in movies made primarily for men) with Robert Pattinson (Twilight, among other movies that he’s less ashamed of).

    But, let’s not pretend that the Schwarzeneggers and Hemsworths (and male-targeted comic books) don’t fuck up male body image. Sure it’s a power fantasy, but for most men it’s not attainable (in part because a lot of (if not most) of these action movie stars take PEDs … I mean I guess normal people can take PEDs, too, but they shouldn’t, it’s quite unhealthy). Especially if we consider how much modern western society promotes behaviors that make people obese.

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    To go along with this comic we have to imagine that women are not attracted to fit men. And while it is true that some women like femboys or dadbods, that is not the majority. A significant number of straight women are attracted to guys with gym bods. If that’s correct, then this wouldn’t be a false equivalence since both genders are being sexualized unrealistically.

    Instead of calling it a false equivalence, I think the point could be made more diplomatically by stating that two wrongs don’t make a right.

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    Women have differing tastes. Men on the other hand all like the same.

    Just like many women don’t like extreme muscley figures many men don’t like extreme hourglass figures.

    Not all women are the same. Not all men are the same either. Claiming otherwise is sexist in both cases.

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      I feel like your strawman missed the point. No one claimed all men or women are the same, and literally no one said “Women have differing tastes. Men on the other hand all like the same.” (or even tried to make that point)…

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        Did I misunderstand the post?

        The point seemed to be that sexualization of men and women is different because not all women like the typical sexualized male man (as per the example given). That being different implies that men do all like the typical sexualized woman. Which is wrong.

        (edit: just realized I did a reverse menandfemales)

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          I believe you did misunderstand the post.

          The post is commenting that both men and women characters in comics are drawn for men. The male characters are aimed at the broad average male power fantasy, not a broad average sexualization that would appeal to women (the way the female characters are drawn for the broad average appeal of men).

          When the woman in this comic strip draws Batman in a way that is sexually attractive to her (which is a similar broad strokes “catch as many women as possible” approach comics already use for men), the man in the comic became uncomfortable seeing it. The point is that if they drew male characters in comics with the same approach that they draw female characters, then generally men would feel as uncomfortable by it as women generally feel now.

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      Yeah, but this is about women in media, using men as an example.

      If the male power fantasy is problematic, is not the topic of the comic. At least that is designed for men, but women don’t get anything designed for them. That’s the issue

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    Imo an important point to add is that sexualized characters aren’t inherently bad. It’s only bad when all or nearly all characters are sexualized. I like media with hot dudes, chicks, and everyhting else, but if all characters from 1 group are sexualized, then it gets weird

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      There was an Oglaf comic where the aliens noticed that the lobsteroid males looked like lobsters, while the lobsteroid women looked like hot human females in a sexy lobster suit. Same for the bee people, the bear people, the tree people. All the females looked like sexy humans.

      They concluded that they had to team up and kill all the humans.

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      It’s only bad when all or nearly all characters are sexualized

      I will not tolerate trash talk of Golden Wind

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        I guess I should add the caveat that if the point is that they’re supposed to be sexualized, it’s a different situation. I have no idea what the golden wind is, but I assume that’s part of it.

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          JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Part 5 is called Golden Wind, set in a highly exaggerated Italy in 2001.

          All of these characters are men: