Google’s AI-driven Search Generative Experience have been generating results that are downright weird and evil, ie slavery’s positives.
Google’s AI-driven Search Generative Experience have been generating results that are downright weird and evil, ie slavery’s positives.
I agree with your position. In all of your examples, the actions and choices are morally wrong but we cannot deny facts that lead to those outcomes. If we do, that is how these mistakes will get repeated by future generations.
Your and @WoodenBleachers’s idea of “effective” is very subjective though.
For example Germany was far worse off during the last few weeks of Hitler’s term than it was before him. He left it in ruins and under the control of multiple other powers.
To me, that’s not effective leadership, it’s a complete car crash.
That’s getting far deeper into the topic than I’d like. As a surface level description it still remains valid. He was able to convince the majority that his way of thinking was the right way to go and deployed a plan to that effect to great success for a sustained period of time.
So, you’re basically saying an effective leader is someone who can convince people to go along with them for a sustained period. Jim Jones was an effective leader by that metric. Which I would dispute. So was the guy who led the Donner Party to their deaths.
This is why I see a problem with this. You and I are able to discuss this and work out what each other means.
But in a world where people are time-poor and critical thinking takes time, errors based on fundamental misunderstandings of consensual meanings can flourish.
And the speed and sheer amount of global digital communication means that they can be multiplied and compounded in ways that individual fact checkers will not be able to challenge sucessfully.
I mean Jim Jones was pretty damn effective at convincing a large group of people to commit mass suicide. If he’d been ineffective, he’d have been one of the thousands of failed cult leaders you and I have never heard of. Similarly, if Hitler had been ineffective, it wouldn’t have takes the combined forces of half the world to fight him.
No I didn’t and you’re not going to straw man me into a debate. You’re looking for a fight that I won’t give you. Re-read my previous statements if you failed to understand what I was trying to say.
Huh? Yikes this feels like being back on reddit.
No I am not trying to “fight” you or “straw man” you at all!!!
I thought we were having a pleasant and civilized conversation about the merits and pitfalls of AI , using our different ideas about the word “effective” as an example.
Unfortunately I didn’t see that you’re handing me downvotes until just now, so I didn’t pick up on your vibe.
I’ll fight you
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Blah blah blah. I don’t want to debate you asshole. I said my comment on the topic and you’re trying to drag me ham fisted back into it. Since you’re so thick you don’t get it, I’ll drop kindness this time.
Go fuck off, I don’t want to talk to you anymore.
What the hell are you on dude? Someone literally is just trying to have a discussion with you on a public forum you posted in, how are they trying to drag you ham fisted in to a debate by simply replying to your comment? Someone’s gwumpy…
If AI can only think at surface level, we are beyond doomed.
Honestly AI doesn’t think much at all. They’re scary clever in some ways but also literally don’t know what anything is or means.
Incorrect. If we are relying on AI as our ONLY source of information then we are doomed. We should always fact check things we believe we know and seek additional information on topics we are researching. Especially if they offer opposing factual positions.
Ironically though you’ve just proven that you think at only a surface level.
ai ain’t going to be much “worse” or “better” than humans.
but re earlier points I don’t think things should be judged on a timescale of a few years.
relevant timescales are more like generation(s) to me.
Nobody said we were relying on that. We’ll all keep searching. We’ll all keep hoping it will bring abundance, as opposed to every other tech revolution since farming. I can only think at the surface level though. I definitely have not been in the science field for 25 years.
LLMs don’t think.
LLMs aren’t AI… they’re essentially a glorified autocorrect system that are stuck at the surface level.
If you ask it for evidence Hitler was effective, it will give you what you asked for. It is incapable of looking at the bigger picture.