• dan1101@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    A server operator who chooses to federate or not federate another server is well within their rights to do so. Their server, their rules. If you don’t like it just browse the defederated server yourself, no one is stopping you.

    It’s like visiting someone’s house and complaining they don’t have organic coffee. If they don’t have organic coffee they aren’t stopping you from getting organic coffee, they just choose not to have it.

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    1 year ago

    Get fucked.

    It’s our right to live in a safe environment without Nazi fucks.

    You have an entitlement to speech, you’re not required to be heard or listened to by me.

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      Who the hell talked about nazis.I’m with censoring hate speech and i don’t believe in total free speech. Did beehaw defederated with lemmy.world becauae of nazis? Yes you don’t have to listen to anybody but you have no right to decide for other what to see. That’s why i’m against defederation and with the ability of individual users to block whatever they want

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    People not wanting to engage with other people is not censorship. Nobody is entitled to someone else’s attention.

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      1 year ago

      I agree but here we are talking about preventing potential people who would like to hear, read or see certain posts

  • jet@hackertalks.com
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    Yes and no. The people still have the voice, you’re not preventing them from talking to other people, you’re just preventing them from accessing your instance.

    Centralized websites like Facebook, Twitter, whatever. That would be censorship if they remove somebody’s voice.

    Decentralized instances, are closer to private communities. They’re focused, and they create curated viewpoints.

    If the federated universe gets dominated by one or two powerful instances, then yes it would be censorship, but if people are using it at a decentralized fashion: it’s just communities expressing preferences.

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      Censorship is not only about completely remove somebody voice. Limiting the visibility of somebody voice is also censorship. It doesn’t matter if people are centralized in few instances or not , you still are limiting opinions that re not off topic from reaching certain people.I think some stuffs should be censored like clear hate speech and racism etc.

  • TheBananaKing@lemmy.world
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    lolno

    You can say whatever the fuck you want, but other people aren’t obliged to listen to it or pass it on.

    Talk to the hand.

    • small44@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      People aren’t obliged to listen to it but they have no right to prevent other people from seeing or hearing it unless it’s stuffs like hate speech and racism

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    “Boo hoo, people aren’t being forced to put up with my stupid shit, waah!”

  • NightOwl@lemmy.one
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    Not really. These aren’t monetized sites, but just individuals inviting guests to use their instance over self hosting their own, and there’s other instances people can move to.

    Each instance is better seen as individual forums than a reddit type centralized site. Some forums allows cross account logins, and some you have to create another account. And defederation doesn’t cause that instance to cease to exist like banning a community or subreddit does.

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      1 year ago

      Money is not the only reason why people/ businesses want to censor stuffs. It can also be because of politics or ideology

  • Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml
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    Yes, it is, but I’m not a Libertarian - some censorship is good. Fascists, trolls, and child pornographers deserve to be censored.