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    2 months ago

    Vim (or emacs, or any other advanced text editor) is much easier to use than nano when you need to do something more complex than type couple of lines.

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      Better? Maybe!

      More efficient? Surley!

      But easier?! Hell no! Easy means you can use it without a lot of training or studying. It is self explanatory. And there is no way on earth that vim is easier than nano. I don’t need to know anything to use nano I need to check docs for hours before I can even start using vim

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        2 months ago

        This makes it seem like jerking off to MILF porn is hard because there is a learning curve

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            No, some piano plays are still harder than others, mo matter how long you practice. Editing text with vim is easier than with nano after some practice.

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              If something is “easy to use” this includes the time you need learn said thing.

              Drinking rahmen from the bowl is easier then using chopsticks (even if you are more elegant with chopsticks)

              Driving automatic is easier then driving manual (even if you may be more efficient with manual if you practised shifting a lot)

              Walking is easier then flicflacs (even if you may be faster with flicflacs if you practised a lot)

              Using Ubuntu is easier than using arch (even if arch gives you more control and opportunities if you understand it)

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                “Easy to use” means that you do less and get more. Learning doesn’t count if you learn something once and then use the skills you obtained many times.

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      And how often does that happen in the real world?

      VIM may have been a very useful tool 20 or 30 years ago, but today it’s nothing else but a tool for one’s sense of superiority. It’s the vinyl of editors.

      If you have to type that much code in a terminal, your infrastructure is outdated. Simple as that.

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        VIM may have been a very useful tool 20 or 30 years ago, but today it’s nothing else but a tool for one’s sense of superiority. It’s the vinyl of editors.

        So, because you don’t understand something, it’s outdated?

        If you have to type that much code in a terminal, your infrastructure is outdated. Simple as that.

        Ok, I can see you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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          I understand it very well. And that’s exactly why I’m writing this.

          Ok, I can see you have no idea what you’re talking about.

          Then say, grandmaster delusion, what purpose does vim serve, where it is actually the best tool? Writing code? Hardly, it’s way too limited and requires a ton of upfront investment and headspace. Writing config files? Hardly, because if you write these by hand, you’re living in the 90s, that’s what Ansible, Terraform etc are for.

          You just don’t want to admit, that vim is nothing more than a habit. Muscle memory.

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        I actually use VIM bindings in PyCharm, slightly cursed but actually works really well and meshes fairly nicely with the other IDE shortcuts. Being able to use it in any terminal is a nice bonus.