I hope this isn’t too spicy a topic for the, what, 7th post on this community? But I see that we already have /c/Zoophilia on the instance and it already has an impressive 80 subscribers. Even as a zoo myself, though, I made the decision to block it as I’m firm in my belief that animals can’t consent. What are everyone’s thoughts on the instance growing other communities about other paraphilias? I know we have a lot of lolicons/shotacons/etc. here, so a community for pedophilia/minor attraction would be really cool and I think fit right in. I’ve always wanted a community for that in a reddit-esque style. (They exist as forums, chat-rooms, and mastodon instances, though!) But if it follows in the footsteps of the zoophilia community and everyone there seems to believe kids can consent, I’d have to block it too. And then I’ll be back at zero when it comes to having a reddit-like community of MAPs! 🥲
What do you think about the prospect of more paraphilia communities? Awesome or scary? Good for the instance or bad for it? I’m also interested in hearing everyone’s opinion on creating alternate paraphilia communities exclusively for anti-contact discussions. (If one like that for zoophilia existed I would happily join!)
@Mousepad@burggit.moe @amaranta@burggit.moe Tagging both of you since you both wanted to know the answer to this.
To be totally blunt, Our server’s datacenter has no issues hosting Zoophillia content. They even joke about a website they have which is hosting bestiality. If the Zoophillia community accidentally or “accidentally” posted real Zoo porn and I got reported to my hosting company, they’d probably laugh it off, and I’d just remove it. There’d be no risk to me, Burggit or any of my or burger and I’s services. Bestiality is also not illegal in a large section of the world, and people generally don’t care as much.
Alright, now let’s take this to a MAP community, even ignoring the fact that a lot of our users have made it very clear they are not in favor of having such a community. And me obviously wanting to please the community that is already here, rather than a small minority of people. There are other issues with it. First off, like others have said, this would get us isolated to kingdom come. On mastodon/pleroma/akkoma this doesn’t matter, you can get defederated by literally 500 instances and still be fine, on lemmy that’d be crippling for the federated instances we have remaining.
Alright, now to the hosting side of things. If a MAP in a MAP community were to accidentally or “accidentally” post real CP, it would just put us in a situation which we’d have to respond immediately. This is already a risk, but having a map community, as much as you might say otherwise does increase its likelihood significantly.
Like I said, if we had a larger moderation team which could monitor things on here 24/7 we might have a vote for it. But it seems that even then, it is a no, since our already established community who has made this site the wonderful place it is. They don’t seem to want this type of community, and we are far more inclined to go with their wishes over the wishes of other groups/individuals.
I can understand the defederation thing but given how much y’all seem to like saying that any viewpoint is welcome here it seems siding with the userbase to disallow a community is pretty hypocritical, no? But I appreciate your transparency. And I personally wouldn’t have the self-control to work with people who could laugh at animal rape but you gotta host somewhere I guess.
Not siding with anyone, to be clear, we never had a vote. Right now, the decision is entirely based around the huge moderation task we’d be undertaking. I was saying that in the future if ever we could handle this type of community moderation wise we might open up discussion about it and potentially have a vote. But currently, as things stand, I would heavily discourage the creation of this sort of community.
Though, to be clear, I think it’s obvious that if a situation did come up where we had a vote, we’d obviously side with the community who are currently contributing and making this place what it is.