I don’t want to say “I told you so”, but I told you so.
Just because you’re used to things working a certain way doesn’t mean that it has to be that way.
True.
Similar arguments have been used against things like abolishing slavery, women entering the workforce and the concept of secular education.
Slavery as it existed in the 1700s wasn’t abolished because the rulers had an epiphany and realized the errors of their ways. It was (mostly, not entirely) abolished for practical reasons. Institutionalized slavery still exists. You have prison labor in countries like the US. We also see outsourced slavery to more degenerate countries like China, where they do have actual slaves or laborers who are slaves in every way but name. Have you ever heard of slave free cotton, or slave free cocoa? These words exist because slavery is not gone. Companies and us consumers around the world are indirectly benefiting from slave labor till this day. I have to look long and hard to find stuff that are more ethically produced, you should know that it’s hard. We also see sex slavery, which intersects with the porn industry. Some of the women in porn could be trafficking victims. I wonder if liberals who goon to porn understand that.
Women working corporate jobs has brought a lot of economical advantages, no doubt. They pay taxes, they increase productivity, they saturate the job market, etc. But it came at the expense of the family unit, and birth-rates. You have a rising percentage of older people needing care, and a less percentage of younger people to care for and replace them. This is one reason why many western countries are inviting immigrants, to keep things sustainable. But for how long?
Women working is not a new phenomena. Child-rearing, taking care of the husband, taking care of the home, and doing everything a housewife does is a full-time job. It’s an honorable job. You seem to have no issue with a woman being obedient to a boss in a corporation, and keeping a smile at all times lest she gets fired. But if it’s her husband that she obeys, you suddenly get your panties in a twist.
Just like allowing people the gender identity that feels natural to them and respecting that reality.
It’s so natural in fact, that we have an unprecedented number of “trans-youths”. I wonder why. Maybe previous generations were just too scared to get out of the closet. Or maybe, it is because young boys and girls are being indoctrinated.
Again, same old “society can only work if we don’t change it to be more open towards people different from me” bigoted bullshit that has been spouted since marginalized people first started getting any rights.
Go and tell that to Ukraine.
You are accusing me of being biased, meanwhile these articles are extremely biased.
I already elaborated on this in previous posts, but the gist of it is that you cannot build a society with all its various systems without having a practical conceptualization of what humans are. This is why your idea of gender-nonbinary, which is impractical to accept wholesale, will never go beyond the bedroom, niche parts of the medical industry, and maybe some transtoilets here and there. 99% of the world will still run based on the concept of two sexes, because it aligns better with reality, because it’s what’s practical.
In times of prosperity, you can afford to play around with these ideologies (at the expense of some boys and girls), but once that prosperity ends due to war or similarly unfortunate events, all these ideas go out the window!
It’s reality. Men who want to be like women, and vice versa, are finding out the hard way.
I’d rather be called a bigot than denying reality to satisfy the desires of fetishists online and the medical industry.
Imo, the biggest tragedy are all the kids that get groomed into undergoing “treatment” for gender dysphoria. Like puberty blockers and even surgery.
I was banned once for saying “there are only two sexes”
Damn Tucker Carlson, he sure made a career.
You’re not understanding what I’m trying to say. This ideology attacks the very idea that the conceptualization of things is bound to reality, ad-hoc, to justify fetishes, making money or other limited personal gains. Outside of these limited gains, these people must deal with reality, so they reintroduce concepts as if nothing happened. That’s why it’s ad-hoc. It’s hypocritical, anti-truth and illogical. Your example, just like other attempts to dismantle the idea of a sex binary (male and female) is fundamentally flawed. A “spork” has the function of being compact and easy to carry & distribute. Being an intersex person has no benefit, it’s a disability. It’s like being born blind or deaf. It’s unfortunate, and should not be fetishized or compared to being a transexual. It’s also highly uncommon to be intersex, so uncommon that redoing how society functions is simply too impractical. Introducing sporks has no such burden on society, and can be easily referred to in terms of a spoon and a fork, because it combines the function of both (albeit lackingly).
It doesn’t end there. They claim that there is a spectrum, not 3 sexes. So they further muddy the waters, and any attempt to categorize things can be waved away in a similar fashion to satisfy some people’s personal whims and desires. Not practical, not acceptable.
Whatever grievances we have with clothing designers or fashion, the point still stands that we will never move away from naturally putting things into boxes, especially when it comes to sex. We naturally see two sexes, and doing so turns out to be what is most in line with reality.
You put things into categories all the time, we all do. Take plates for example. If someone told you that you are not allowed to call two plates with different colors “plates”, then you would likely have considered it a bit wired. Wouldn’t you?
Also, tone down the arrogance.
You know Pakistan & India also recognizes a third gender? The Hijra. I guess the medical community has a long history of this grift all the way into antiquity such as Ancient Egypt (they wrote and described their notion of a third gender) or even somewhat recently the Mughal Empire (15th century). But yes it’s totally a grift.
Your lack of knowledge isn’t mine to fix though. You’ve set your opinion to be something malicious because you want it to be, but even a quick glance at a wiki page would tell you the much longer history.
I did not know about this term, so let’s take a look.
Wikipedia says: “In the Indian subcontinent, hijra is the generic term for trans women and may include eunuchs and intersex people […] Hijras are officially recognised as a third gender throughout countries in the Indian subcontinent”
It goes on to say: “Some hijras may form relationships with men and even marry,[32] although their marriage is not usually recognized by law or religion”
So the institution of marriage did not entertain the idea of “hijras”, that seems pretty significant to me! It begs the question which other norms, customs, practices and laws pertaining to sexes were not taking this idea into consideration. Again, you can make up a sex ad-hoc for specific purposes (fetishes, guarding harems, etc.) but you will not find it being truly recognized as another sex.
If we forward to today, you see the same thing. Medical doctors, architects, clothing designers, etc. all mostly operate according the concept of two sexes. Because that’s what’s practical, and that’s what’s most in line with reality.
This is not the argument you think it is. It would have been fine for my grandfather to call black people with a different name in his day, but >one day it wasn’t. You can argue this made him less free, but I’d disagree.
You were being inflammatory, knowingly, and that’s why you got banned. You walked into a house and decided to shit on the floor and were then surprised you were shown the door.
I said “there are only two sexes”. I got my post removed, and got banned.
In general, you should have enough tolerance to host discussions and debates for people you disagree with. Especially when you claim to be a viable Reddit alternative. You can’t ask the wider population to join your platform when you are this extreme and on the fringe. As I said, Lemmy is in the same camp as Raddle.me, not Old Reddit.
It’s also not true there are only 2 biological sexes in humans (irregardless of the social arguments that exist in current day discourse). >Intersex exists and is recognized way before the current social aspect was relevant. There are also 6 chromosomal sexes recognised in biology.
There is a benefit to not start muddying the waters when it comes to sexes.
The benefit is the conceptualization of reality, which allows us to put things that are similar into the same box (let’s call it X). Then we can say things that are in X tend to have a, b, c, … features. We can then talk more about the objects in X in a social or academic setting, and draw logical conclusions based on their features and other premises. This helps us decide which treatments to give, how to behave, how to build homes, which products to develop, which services to give and much more.
When you refuse to acknowledge that the objects in the box can be similarly referred to, and instead enforce a system where object 1 belongs in box “A”, and 2 in “B”, and 3 in “C”, etc. you challenge people’s ability to conceptualize reality efficiently. This makes medicine harder, it makes socialization harder, and other things we do as human beings that differ based on sex much harder.
It’s simply not realistic to enforce this on wider society because
I therefore believe that the whole idea of non-binary is pushed primarily as a grift by the medical industry to sell “treatments” for gender dysphoria, and as a type of fetish. It’s not something most people are interested in validating, because it’s wrong, harmful and not based on reality.
I’d argue, as a day 1 Reddit user that Reddit was way more woke than any competitor at the time. It wasn’t as woke (lol what a word) as it is today, but if you think whatever it was competing with wasn’t less woke than Reddit, I have a bridge to sell you.
It depends on the subreddit. Several subreddits that you surely would not agree with did just fine for years.
Reddit didn’t even have subreddits in the beginning, meaning that for everyone to play nice a baseline of respect had to be present.
I will repeat myself… I said “there are only two sexes”. I got my post removed, and got banned.
Children need a man as a father, not a spineless cuck.
It is harsh language, I will admit. But the guy needed some tough love.
Cisgender is a slur
It is a slur, since it is constantly being used in a negative context. It is how I, and others feel from experience.
Where did the big bad woke touch you?
Nowhere, thank God.
It’s no secret that Lemmy is shaping up to be a viable alternative to Reddit.
I will tell you why this is not true.
Any platform that becomes successful enough to grow and cater to a larger audience eventually gets sold to large corpos. This is inevitable, because the owner usually doesn’t have the principles to say “no” to $100m+. This is a bad thing, why? Because you joined the platform due to its reliability and its culture. These things are no longer guaranteed to stay when the owner is replaced. So the previous owner essentially did a bait-and-switch by selling you (the user-base) to a corporation.
On one hand this leads to a more stable platform that can withstand legal trouble and has a steady inflow of money to maintain service. On the other hand, you get cencorship, woke ESG-score-friendly ideology and UX anti-patterns (like when Reddit constantly pushes their app to track you and show you ads). The ending of such a platform is hatred from most common people and aggressive monetization by the owners to compensate for a lower rate of growth. These owners, usually shareholders of publicly traded companies, do not care about maintaining quality as much as they care about generating wealth. This means that they will resort to several anti-user tactics to keep growing their wealth, like for example milking the platform dry with ads & micro-transactions.
Lemmy.world and other large instances are just like Condé Nast Reddit. Same censorship, same garbage. If you think that Lemmy is more free, then let me remind you that Reddit pre-2014 was more free than Lemmy.world. Yes, once upon a time Reddit was much more free and open than the so called “Lemmyverse”. Why I say this is because of Lemmy’s rules and policies. As an anecdote, I literally got banned from a community for saying that there are only two sexes (no foul language, nothing). For me, who was a Redditor during the pre-2014 era, this was unheard of. Lemmy is less like Old Reddit, and more like Raddle.me (Communist Old Reddit-clone). Lemmy is the LGBT/woke Old Reddit clone. It’s not as fringe as Raddle.me, but it is still fringe, and it will therefore not be able to have the same reach as Old Reddit once had. The fact that Reddit is woke now is a bait-and-switch, as I explained earlier. Reddit would have never been successful had it been woke from Day 1. I predict that Lemmy will never grow as large as Reddit because of this reason.
To mods: Leave this post be. If not, you can have your echo-chamber, and I’m fucking out of here.
I think you’ve got it backwards. If we can’t acknowledge that both are bad before talking about banning them, then what justification do we have for banning them?
That could help. But then we need:
The dangerous part is that he can start bribing admins of large instances to federate Threads. I’m not sure how one would practically defend against something like this. The only way I can think of would be for an admin to be so ideologically opposed to Meta that they would refuse even $1m to federate. But such people are rare.
Mass media are at their core propaganda tools. Their mission is to further the agendas of whoever finances them, they are not driven by the pursuit of truth, justice or anything related such as the defense of privacy.
Can’t we just say that both are bad?
Reality dictates that when having collected wood for a fire, we need to put some effort to light the wood up.
Anime teaches us that the pile of wood will self-ignite and that there is no effort needed from our part to light it up.
If we follow anime in real life, we will end up making the mistake of not preparing a lighter when we intend to light fires.
Do you guys follow what I’m trying to say?