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  • I am not referring to you as a Tanky like other folks, to be clear. I’m more civil than that :)

    I think the issue I personally have with your argument is that I do not think there is an “advocate for peace” option left on the table. Functionally, what would that look like today? Losing autonomy over your land, your culture, your people, so that Russia will stop blowing things up. That to me does not seem to be advocating for peace, it seems to be advocating for defeat and potentially, a long-game genocide.


  • I don’t think anyone here is suggesting we are in a movie or video game situation. A lot of the arguments here are rooted in history.

    I believe the argument you made is simply beneficial to authoritarianism which is why folks are leaving intense replies. If the idea you’re proposing is saving lives at all cost, then it is no different functionally from the ideology of “might makes right.”

    Quickly negotiating a defeat to save lives means that the USA, China and Russia can and should invade every square foot of land that they desire as fast as possible. The blame would then be on the victims for not giving up quicker to save lives.

    Surely you can see how this is a problem?



  • Forgive me if I am misinterpreting what you are saying here, but it sounds like you’re saying for the sake of human life Ukraine should just negotiate being taken over and give up?

    In my opinion, you’re better off losing, all the way down to the last man, rather than living as a slave. If Russia wins those people are not getting their lives back in any way that leads to happiness.