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@CrazyDuck Yes, I believe so :) Of course this is just how I remember it, it reflects my opinions and not of my employer’s, etc.
From my rough memory, around the time this happened in 2013 the following was true:
@CrazyDuck @confluence ahoy!
No, I don’t think so? As far as I can tell all extensions were public, in particular Jingle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_(protocol)
Disclosure: I worked on gTalk towards the end of its lifetime and was the person responsible for (sadly) turning down federation.
@CrazyDuck of course moving to a proprietary protocol doesn’t mean that federation must die. Indeed we kept federation alive for users for a while by bridging gTalk (legacy, still supporting federation) and Hangouts (proprietary). It was the dream of at least a few (myself included) to open up the Hangouts API and/or build federation on top of it, but it was not prioritized – I take part of the responsibility for that, even if I was just an individual contributor: I could have done it as a 20%.