32nd Century Historians: “Doctor Bashir was good friends with a Cardassian tailor named Garak. Though both men would occasionally take a romantic partner, their friendship was the most enduring relationship in both men’s lives.

”Doctor Bashir and mister Garak’s friendship was characterized by frequent lunch engagements, discussions of classic literature, and long sessions together in the holosuites.

”Eventually the two men retired together to a small pleasure planet that catered primarily to males. Mister Garak ramped down his tailoring to work exclusively with leather, and the pair raised prize winning voles.

”After Garak passed away in his sleep, Doctor Bashir is said to have become distraught. He refused to leave mister Garak’s gravesite, and died himself only three weeks later.”

Hardly!

Nope, as mentioned in the post, I didn’t make this one.

I think you may be referring to “Extreme Risk”, where Paris builds the Flyer.

“Drive” is the episode where Paris’ ongoing midlife crisis prompts him to convince Janeway that allowing him to enter the Flyer in a politically charged race between former enemy states is a good idea.

NuTrek apparently began in 1973.

Strange. I assume that is not the case for other posts on the board?

What is it you are seeing?

Inspector Spacetime?

12 is what I want to pick as well, just because I feel like Riker and Kirk are some of the more gregarious characters, and would make for the best conversation, but that would be three relatively burly dudes in one another’s space for a pretty long time.

I think ultimately I would have to pick 8.

Man, I miss Swear Trek.

I agonized over that choice.

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Odo definitely identifies as male.

And yes.

He insisted that even though he is gay, the Sulu he portrayed is straight.

“Unfortunately, it’s a twisting of Gene’s creation, to which he put in so much thought. I think it’s really unfortunate.”

Takei was not into it, but I do feel like he was overselling just how much thought Roddenberry put into the side characters in Trek. Sulu didn’t even get a given name until “The Voyage Home”, a film Roddenberry had nothing to do with.

(In Generations, Sulu is married and has a daughter, Demora, who helmed the Enterprise-B.)

Demora is Sulu’s daughter, but there’s no mention that Sulu was married, or if he was that it was to a woman.

(and Cho himself is cool being a straight Korean playing a gay Japanese)

Funny you mention the character’s nationality, considering that Roddenberry envisioned Sulu as some pan-Asian character on indeterminate nationality. Sulu is not a Japanese name, and Roddenberry chose to name the character after the Sulu sea of the coast of the Philippians.

Please don’t assume that I thought otherwise just because I didn’t explicitly mention every potentiality in that one post.

That was not my assumption. I just can’t think of any reason to assume that Sulu is not bi or pan, given what we know about the various iterations of the character.

Who said anything about revenge?

Ah, well that question has been answered by others and myself elsewhere in this thread. Sorry for assuming that you might have checked to see if your question was already answered before asking it.

But hey, just for you, I’ll repost what I’ve already said:

Because the police enforce the laws of the state, often with violence. If the law dictates that a person being open about their identity is illegal regardless of the fact their identity harms no one, and everyone involved in their actions consents, than it is the responsibility of the cops to oppress them. One year the cops might march alongside people at pride, and then the laws might change and they’ll be there to bust heads of anyone who shows up the next year. 
 
And yeah, there no doubt exist LGBTQ+ cops, or cops whose friends and/or family whom they love are LGBTQ+, but so long as they wear the uniform they represent an organization used to oppress marginalized and minority communities. 
 
Fundamentally, pride is not just a party, it is a protest.

It’s the pansexual flag.

“No cops at pride” is not about the prejudices of individual cops, be they fictional future shapeshifters from half a galaxy away, or real police here and now. There are LGBTQ+ cops out there.

The issue is the fact that cops enforce the law regardless of how just the law might be. Odo was the chief of security aboard Terek Nor while it was under Cardassian control, and while in that role rushed three innocent Bajoran workers to execution so he could maintain order aboard the station.

Even once the station became Bajoran owned and Starfleet operated, Odo was still willing to conduct illegal surveillance, lock people in the detention facility on trumped up charges, and impose a strict curfew. Personally I don’t think it would be too much of a stretch to assume that Odo would be willing to lock up people participating in a Pride event for no other reason than that he was told to do so, and they were causing a minor disruption on the Promenade.

I’m genuinely not. Say what you mean, champ.

Prime Sulu is straight and Kelvin Sulu is gay

Do we know that prime Sulu is straight? He flirts with a woman in “The Way to Eden” and when the literal devil from Christen mythology is aboard the Enterprise in “The Magiks of Megas-Tu” Sulu is able to conjure a woman using the magical properties.

Mirror Sulu clearly is interested in Uhura, despite her rebuffs.

And we do see Kelvin Sulu ever so briefly with his husband and child in “Beyond”, causing an uproar well out of proportion to how little the movie choose to show.

However, all those characters might be bisexual. We do exist.

Even while it was still on the air, I assumed Prime Kira was closeted and that was part of why none of her relationships worked out.

People have relationships that don’t work out without being queer.

But yeah, prime Kira is a religious conservative who is grossed out by how libertine Dax is – dating Ferengi, and dudes with transparent skulls – and while we’re never told how Bajorans view queer relationships, I do view mirror Kira’s more unrestrained nature as indication that her prime counterpart is holding back a part of herself.