It’s not all bad though!

Oh I’m willing to have a few comments, I should have been more clear. I was just saying I didn’t want this to just keep going indefinitely. Bye!

I don’t intend to have a back and forth with you, I have reason to believe it would be unproductive and frustrating.

Maybe just consider that people have no better recourse to judge a person than their actions, and mitch has done terrible things. His motivations, and whether or not he is “evil” or just generally trying to do the right thing, are irrelevant in the face of his destructive political actions. People aren’t happy that an old man had a seizure, they are happy the old man might not be causing harm much longer.

Not explicitly, no. It’s just a red flag that if you engage with this person it will be unproductive and frustrating.

Conservatives wish death on pretty much all liberal politicians every now and then, sometimes on live television, and no one even bats an eye. A handful of leftist internet comments have “ding dong the witch is dead” vibes and you start clutching your pearls.

Mitch is a shitty traitor.

“both sides” is the fastest giveaway of a bad faith troll lately. At least the unapologetic conservatives don’t pretend to take the moral high ground

I don’t see how that addresses any of what I said. If anything this seems like this would mean the subreddits that blocked people with no karma weren’t even doing it to block trolls, just new users.

I didn’t care about my karma or any specific persons, I like to get into arguments about stuff and that is how you get downvoted. I just don’t like the behaviour a karma system motivated.

There were many subreddits that did not allow participation unless someone had a karma over a certain threshold. For many of them the threshold was pretty low, only meant to stop brand new accounts and trolls, but still.

Additionally, the “people who farmed it” often did so because a reddit account with a high karma score was literally worth money to adspammers and people running bots.

The karma system contributed to what made reddit bad.

I don’t want a status quo either, I’m also a leftist.

I’m just trying to describe things as I see them.

They are talking about karma as a thing you could collect, point totals for all posts added together displayed on your profile. Not the voting mechanism itself.

Actually that is really really interesting what you said, “morally opposed to windmills.” They obviously are against them from a “moral” perspective, but I’ve never seen even an attempt at a moral argument against windmills, its all crazy conspiracy theory stuff. I would almost respect it more if one of them just said something like “I don’t like windmills because I think it is morally wrong to harvest wind”.

That is kinda my point, the meaning of “conservative” changes a lot through the centuries it has been used, and the only consistent part seems to be the assholes using it as a “friendly” sounding mask.

And your perspective of the public opinion of liberals is entirely too informed by mainstream media. Many leftists dislike liberals for not being leftist enough, and moderates seem to only expect maintenance of the status quo, not magic

I don’t think it is unreasonable to assume people are sane until proven otherwise.

The problem is some people get comfortable with their opinion of someone and won’t change it when presented with new information.

I disagree that people generally have a good idea what a fascist government looks like, or else there wouldn’t be this level of confusion. I think most people at best, know what countrys had a problem with fascism in the past, without any certainty of what parts of of those governments were where the fascism was, just guesses.

Thats why comparisons to nazis and such are so common I would say. People find it a lot easier to point out similarities to known fascism than to try and concisely point out the exact point where an action became “fascist”

They weren’t quite like this but there was still shitty conservatives in much the same way… The extremists weren’t the core yet though. They were absolutely still there and voting for Bush, they just weren’t allowed to be the face of the party… Yet.

Why do they all hate windmills so much?

I had an old family friend meltdown, unfriend me from facebook, and avoid me like the plague ever since I told him he was wrong when he claimed it takes more electricity to make a single windmill than a windmill can ever produce in it’s usuable lifetime…

“conservative” is starting to feel like a meaningless label that assholes throughout history have tried to use to describe themselves because they didn’t like the other words people were using to describe them.

And don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there are “real” conservatives out there and in history, but it sure feels like they are outnumbered by the people that use the word as a mask, and that is weird.

The most convincing argument that elon does a lot of cocaine is just listening to him speak in a less formal interview.

BUT! I don’t think he used to be actually smart, just lucky. Too many people assume “succesful” people had to have done something exceptional to earn it, but 99% of extremely wealthy people acquired that extreme wealth through a simple combination of luck and startup capital (which of course they have because they are lucky).

Me, when I’m trying to write on a piece of paper in my hand instead of on a flat surface

Only if you don’t clean them in my experience, and they aren’t particularly hard to clean. Just give em as good scrub when you clean the shower.