For one, the fact that whether someone was tried and convicted was generally not based on guilt, but whether or not they were of use to the allies or not.

Werner Von Braun was probably the most famous example, but there are hundreds of others.

I don’t care? The Nuremburg trials aren’t the source of basic morality and ethics. They aren’t even a particularly good example of it, if you’ve actually got any familiarity with what actually happened.

Oh, are we going back to “I was just following orders” being an excuse?

Have you tried just being a goose?

I’m not going to be nice to people who insist on keeping the world a dying, dystopian shithole, and it’s not my job to think for them. If people refuse to take a moral stance in the face of societal destruction, they can go fuck themselves and deserve to be belittled.

My bad. I didn’t realize I was talking to someone stupid enough to look at the state of the world and still be able to cling to the idea that large-scale industrialism has a viable place in the future of society.

You can plan whatever you want, it doesn’t change reality.

Have you tried just living in your cubicle and having them take rent out of your paycheck?

Why would we not have those things? Are you incapable of conceptualizing having motivations for creating and doing things other than for financial profit? Why, in your estimation, can’t we have a system were people do things because they care about those things and they’re worth doing because they benefit everyone?

Money is an artificial construct serves no real purpose other than to consolidate power and resources into the hands of a few by depriving the many and keeping them in servitude. Removing money as a motivation, if something is worth having, people will want to have it, which means that some of those people will still choose make/do that thing for their own benefit, which in turn benefits everyone.

If the point of working for money is to use that money to obtain goods and services, there’s no reason to just get rid of the money aspect and just make those goods and services available directly. The only thing that really changes is that we stop over-working ourselves to over-produce frivolous bullshit for the sake of generating more wealth for the wealthy while being denied the fruits of that work.

I don’t need to live in a place to know that heat domes, droughts, and rampant wildfires do not describe a place that’s “probably survivable.” You will not be able to live there 15-20 years from now.

Yup. Famously, no one ever created art until capitalism came around to turn it into a commodity.

Did you forget what happened there last summer?

You’re missing the concept completely. It’s not about not perfoming labor, it’s about eliminating work.

Labor is performing tasks that need to be done to meet the needs of the individual and the community. That’s not what work is. Work is exploitation. Work is about financial profit for the benefit of the powerful few at the expense of the worker.

Work is parasitism. It forces us into a life of ruthless, competitive struggle and leaves the loser majority in miserable, pointless servitude. Labor is an act of necessity and generosity, not a commodity. It has purpose and serves the whole, which then serves the individual. Labor creates, supports, and improves the community, while work domineers it and drains it for the profit of others.

There already is. It’s “work reform.”

No, you actually can’t do that. You’ll go to jail when they catch you. Unless you have a shitload of money to buy property and cover the taxes on it for the rest of your life, you can’t just leave society and live in the wilderness and expect not to be persecuted for it.

Relocate? To where? The whole planet is fucked, not just the tropics.

A shitty source not being the absolute worst source doesn’t make it any less shitty than it is. If your only options for news are US government propaganda or Russian government propaganda, the only valid choice is to stop following the news.

That’s kind of the point, though. The fact that you can’t just…live in the world without participating in a destructive and exploitative economic system first is disgusting and immeasurably immoral and unethical.

Most people aren’t middle class.

No, because I can refuse to sign the lease and I won’t get put in prison for that. Swearing a compulsory oath under threat of imprisonment in a sitiation you were forced to be in isn’t any kind if gesture, it’s just submission to coersion, nothing more, nothing less.