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Seems like he’s talking about… Twilight?

It doesn’t. The episodes just get longer and more boring as the show progresses. The cancellation isn’t exactly a mystery.

“”““loudly declare””“”

Adira tells Stamets their pronouns, and Stamets says “okay” approvingly. That’s it. That’s the full extent of what you are calling a “big deal.”

You understand that even in a society where everyone is allowed to “just be,” accidental misgendering is still going to happen and corrections will still need to be communicated, right? Marco misgendered Nico on their first appearance, so Nico must have corrected him. You are effectively arguing that enby representation is only acceptable if actual conversations about gender occur off-screen.

A “multi episode story arc”? You mean these 90 seconds? The only way this bit of character and relationship development could be less “heavy handed” would be if it didn’t happen at all.

but as someone else pointed out it’s still not super common for gay characters, especially male characters, to be shown as being romantically involved, which can be jarring when you’re not used to it. Dunno, it’s weird.

Yep, many people still struggle with it. What do you think it would take to change this?

That’s not a particularly unique perspective, many Trekkies choose to process Star Trek as “historical documents.” There’s a movie about it.

What I don’t understand is why you’ve assigned this theoretical camera crew the intent of “get the camera on the gay dudes, stat” when “get the camera on the relationship between the two main characters” is a much simpler explanation. There are entire episodes dedicated to Odo & Kira, Paris & Torres or Trip & T’Pol relationship drama. Stamets & Culber screen time pales in comparison, and at least Stamets & Culber have some chemistry.

It’s 24XX, who the hell is still getting bent out of shape about homosexuality 400 years from now?

I’m pretty lukewarm on Discovery, I’ve seen all of it but most episodes only once, so maybe I just don’t remember it. Who got bent out of shape over Stamets and/or Culber being gay?

That’s true, it could have been worse. She could have been as stupid as she is ugly.

True story, when I was 7 I got this game for Christmas, installed it on the spot and started playing, but this lady was so intimidating that I got spooked, quit, and didn’t touch it again for years

Picard uses android

He has unlimited data

I’ll see myself out

Of course Janeway made the right choice. Anyone who says otherwise is either trolling or sexist. No one would care if it was Picard splitting Guiker or Sisko splitting Quira.

People don’t hate the episode, they hate the “debate.”

Pfft, Geordi is the least of Worf’s problems at that table. Data is literally a walking computer, Troi can read minds, and Riker is evidently the greatest poker player who ever lived.

Sokath, his eyes uncovered

This line was foreshadowing Lorca’s origin. You see, mirror Musk was actually competent, making him the precise inverse of real Musk.

I don’t care that the timing is suspect and there’s another Musk reference in Discovery, I’ll die on this hill.

Your memes are fire, post all you want

… photoshop?

You’re telling me that Robert Duncan McNeill isn’t shredded?

It’s almost as if time itself is pushing back and events reinsert themselves and all this was supposed to happen back in 1992 and I’ve been trapped here for 30 years!

This line is a pretty conspicuous breach of the fourth wall placed there by the current stewards of the franchise to tell us that we’re back to pre-Kelvin timeline time travel rules. The whole “time travel creates two discrete timelines” notion is gone. It was a one-off to justify the Kelvin timeline, and now we’re done with it.

It’s all one timeline and while that timeline is in a constant state of flux due to time travelers tinkering with it on a regular basis, it’s still one big wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey timeline. Therefore, the answer to every “are X and Y in the same timeline?” question is a continuously shifting “maybe” which largely depends on how you choose to understand “the timeline.”

To put a finer point on it, this is the writing staff telling the fanbase to chill out about timelines. Akiva Goldsman speaking to CinemaBlend, emphasis mine:

This is a correction. Because otherwise, it’s silly, or Star Trek ceases to be in our universe…By the way, this happened in Season 1, so this is not a Season 2 [issue]. It’s a pilot issue. We want Star Trek to be an aspirational future. We want to be able to dream our way into the Federation as a Starfleet. I think that is the fun of it, in part. And so, in order to keep Star Trek in our timeline, we continue to push dates forward. At a certain point, we won’t be able to. But obviously, if you start saying that the Eugenics Wars were in the 90s, you’re kind of fucked for aspirational in terms of the real world.

Translation: the Star Trek canon is going to keep shifting forward to accommodate keeping it in our future. More broadly, we should all accept some measure of canon flexibility so Star Trek is always set in an aspirational future, well suited for telling morality tales in space which are relevant to modern issues.