I know that, sadly. Doesn’t stop me from feeling disgusted by it.

This makes me sick honestly. r/place is one of the nicest memories I have of Reddit and now they’re using it as a cheap tactic to bait us to come back. Really a low blow.

But it doesn’t make any sense, no matter how you spin it. In the aftermath of one highly controversial decision, instead of laying low for a while to let the dust settle, they decide to make another one. And this time targeting the group that happens to be the least likely aggravated by the last one (since people paying for Premium likely use the official app) and also the ones that directly bring in income. I can definitely see this ending well.

We’re not earning enough revenue, so what we need to do is remove the ways we currently earn revenue!

Man. What the actual hell is Reddit doing? They’ve been making the most suicidal business decisions this year. Blocking third party apps, they piss off a huge active portion of their user base but sure, you could say they weren’t paying anyway. But now they’re screwing over their PAYING users? I don’t even know what they expect at this point.

Seeing people here pushing back for once against the trigger-happy defederating mindset actually gives me hope in the future of this instance.

Firstly, the alt-right is far from a modern issue. And secondly it’s nothing to do with feeling bad for them. I couldn’t agree less with the nonsense they’re saying there. I’m saying that defederating them doesn’t “prevent the issue in the first place” at all. Isolating communities only makes them get more extreme over time. Refusing to let them interact with us only causes their beliefs to be echoed and amplified in their communities. And I should clarify again, by no means am I saying that they should be allowed to promote their hateful messages here. If they break the rules of our instance, here in our instance, they should be banned, simple.

I agree with this. Isolating communities that have odious beliefs only lead to those beliefs being echoed and intensified in their small spaces, and hence become more extreme over time. It’s not “nipping the issue in the bud” like many people seem to think it is, it’s the complete opposite. Past a certain line we definitely should cut ties, but I guess it’s debatable where that line should be drawn.

Our instance’s rules are for our own instance. If they come over here and start spewing ridiculous nonsense, then sure, we should start banning them. For now they aren’t even causing much trouble. If they do in the future then I’d support defederating, but I disagree with jumping the gun.

No one is forcing anything. You’re allowed to block them, so do just that. If anything, defederating is the more “forcing” course of action.

I agree. I don’t like this whole principle of dictating what members are or are not allowed to see. Defederating should be a last resort. Everyone has a block button.

AnarchyChess decided to get a picture of a deranged horsey to the top of r/all before closing indefinitely. It was hilarious.

Yeah that’s why in my initial comment I said “just anonymously but unable to comment or interact”.

What I mean by search engine is literally just Google, I don’t mean my sh.it search function. If you’re not accessing Beehaw through one of the defederated instances then it won’t know you’re from a defederated instance, no?

Yeah, I’m not too concerned with the users who go “Looks interesting but a little too confusing for me right now so I’ll pass.” What bothers me is the ones who outright spread “Lol these alternatives are shit, Lemmy will never take off, too counterintuitive, this site has no future!!!”. Like chill guys, it takes time. Not your thing yet? Fine. But why be so quick to outright dismiss it?

Fair, but I find it so strange that these people would be in a sub called RedditAlternatives but go “nope, nope, nah, nuh-uh” at every alternative presented just because the alternative isn’t exactly the same as Reddit, without even giving them a chance. Lemmy isn’t even that complicated, I’ve supported several users through the jump by answering their questions on the process in DMs, and so far all of them eventually got it after some explanation. But the rest of the commenters act like you need to open a backend console and run 50 lines of code just to create an account. I’m just… saddened, honestly.

Lmfao, imagine some corpo trying to buy up all the instances one by one while the users all migrate out of the instance immediately when that happens. That would be hilarious.

No, it’s about saying IT does nothing but work

I’m honestly amazed by all of this, watching the birth of a platform unfold. I think I’ve been chronically online on Lemmy for the past few days xD Here’s hoping Lemmy will really take off.

Edit: one other thing I really hope to see is ex-Reddit 3PA devs picking this up! I’m not sure how many devs will ever want to make that gamble again after being brutally fucked over by Reddit, but I can only hope someday.

I find it ironic that they say fake niceness will only scare people off, but all the “ethos engineering” only promotes a culture of fake niceness. I don’t buy all this “walled utopia” idealism, especially since this place isn’t like Discord with private servers, but a public interconnected forum. Why choose to set up on the Fediverse if you’re not open to ”strangers” accessing your community? But oh well, I think they’ll probably defederate more and more over time (or switch to whitelist).