“But by the end of ww2, counting the bodies, soviets get less credit than they deserve by western historiography.”

Sounds more like a thing that you should pick up with your history teacher then.

WW2 in my country is a part of history that get’s the most attention during history classes. Never has it underestimated the role of the Soviets in the WW2 in defeat of the Nazi’s.

That doesn’t mean that it validates the regime that it had during those years. Don’t you have the ability to see the incidents in isolation or is your whole reasoning about this fact that because they killed the most Nazi’s that the regime and whatever they did in Eastern Europe and their own borders are OK?

It is the same reasoning people make that Hitler is also quite a good guy because he designed the Autobahn (which is Nazi propaganda) that “improved” the lives of the people of Germany.

Just because a governing body of a country did good things for their country or had tendencies to make a right choice doesn’t change the fact that they are and still can be pieces of shit.

I can’t help that I like big butts and I cannot lie.

Seriously what point are you trying to make?

You are saying that Europe “rolled” over and effectively died when the Nazis were strolling in and most of the western nations were just apathically watching?

I agree with you. Good point to make. If the western nations were to make a stand earlier in Hitlers crusade than alot of hurt could be spared.

Even in my country there used to be enough people who were collaborating with the Nazis. We actually had a party who were actively promoting it.

My country also had the most jewish victims that were murdered by the Nazis. Three quarters of the total that lived in my country were brutally slaughtered.

It is the highest of all western nations.

I have read the literature and seen the documentaries.

So again what is the point that you are trying to make that I don’t know about?

You accuse me of defending the “genocidal” western world?

Which country started WW2 and the holocaust? I am gonna give you a hint it is 1 of the people I named in my post.

If you actually think I am defending anyone than you are not reading my post.

I love the fact that you all have a notepad somewhere with written statements for these subject. Don’t make it to obvious.

What is the point you are trying to make with that article? That western nations are not perfect? That because western nations are taking advantage of others that it is okay for countries to commit mass murder? That authoritarian regimes are born from western actions? That inequality all around the world is born from the actions of western nations?Tell me what is your angle and what do you want me to do with the info you provide which is information that I already knew.

In regards to your other posts;

Criticizing journalism is okay. Not taking everything at face value is a good practice to have.

But willfully ignoring history and everything that has been said and written about it is just still and again people purposely closing their eyes.

I still do not understand why someone would not take the time to actually read the literature and watch the footage of how hurtful these regimes have been through the years.

“The dismissal of tankies really bothers me”

I am gonna make it easy.

If you are a holocaust denier, Stalin/Mao/Hitler/lenin fetishist or “defend” how they ruled their people then you are purposely keeping your eyes shut.

There is so so much literature to read and material to watch about these people that you actually have to actively dodge it to not know what they have done and some of the regimes that came from them are still doing.

Just because you are right about 1 thing doesn’t mean that it validates every single believe that you have.

There are also enough people who are not the above who were against the invasion of Iraq and already foresaw why the US went there.

But this is the thing; It is your choice to believe the above. It literally is a choice, the truth is different. It is literally a choice to close your eyes towards history and the crimes authoritarian rulers and regimes are still commiting towards their citizens.

The western world is not perfect but there is a reason people are fleeing towards western nations and not the other way around.