• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    So, this is definitely good from an infrastructure perspective. But because the infrastructure is all privately owned and operated in pursuit of profit, the cost problem isn’t solved by the new capital.

    Much like with all the new natural gas electric plants, these battery centers simply exist to exploit the short periods of time in which Texas electricity prices jump from $25 Mwh to $3000 Mwh. As the cartels sink their claws deeper into the retail market, the possibility of enormous price spikes increase, with base loads falling and surge pricing becoming much more common.

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      6 months ago

      It’s not a cartel risk. It’s a supply and demand equation. More supply means lower prices.

      It’s just market prices.

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        6 months ago

        It’s not a cartel risk. It’s a supply and demand equation.

        Cartels love industries with inelastic demand.

        It’s just market prices.

        Markets aren’t magic. Prices are a consequence of human decisions. And if you can withhold electricity from the grid to maximize returns (by forming a cartel with other producers) you can drive those prices up when people can least afford to reduce consumption.

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          6 months ago

          Isn’t it tonnes of different people, farmers and such. Too many for a cartel to form. Reducing supply is just going to mean to make less money.

          Batteries are making the grid a lot more elastic.

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            6 months ago

            Isn’t it tonnes of different people, farmers and such.

            Farmers and such are not selling power on the Texas wholesale electric grid, no.

            Reducing supply is just going to mean to make less money.

            Because fossil fuel supplies are limited, you can often make more money selling a small amount onto the market at a high price than a large amount onto the market at a low price.

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              6 months ago

              Some people ideas of capitalism are so warped.

              If there is an energy cartel report them.

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                6 months ago

                If there is an energy cartel report them.

                I’ll notify Ken Paxton right away. I’m sure he’ll get right on it.

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        6 months ago

        So weird that other states are able to avoid such ridiculous price swings and are able to mitigate most of the downtime caused by extreme weather disruptions than Texas is unable to handle.