• S_H_K@kbin.social
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    They made it a business. How many places in the world have private incarceration facilities?

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    Reminder that the US have never abolished slavery for prisoners and have one of the largest slave population in the world.

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    Largest prison population both in absolute size AND per capita. Also, random fact, their constitution allows prisoners to be forced into slave labour. Also, another random fact, their prisons are run for profit. None of these facts are related of course!

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      Not to nitpick but not ALL prisons in the US are for-profit. They should be illegal though.

      Fun fact - other countries that have for-profit prisons include the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Chile, Jamaica, Japan, Mexico, Peru, South Africa, South Korea and Thailand.

      This won’t do much since most of these prisons operate under state jurisdiction, but in 2021, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop the United States Department of Justice from renewing further contracts with private prisons.

    • The Dark Lord ☑️@lemmy.ca
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      Next you’re going to tell me that these for-profit prisons lobby the government for harsher prison sentences for things like cannabis possession.

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      Ah yes, Germany and Sweden. The last bastions for criminals all around the world. Oh wait, I’m 6-7 times as likely to be murdered in the US then those two places (Source).

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      Sure. Definitely nothing to do with the fact that in your country, locking people up is SUPER profitable for prisons and a few other industries so certain institutions lobby to make sure more people keep getting locked up.

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    THEY’RE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON THEY’RE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON THEY’RE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON FOR YOU AND ME

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      Having to live in the US is already a punishment, being inmate is like being in a prison inside a prison.

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        Look the US has a ton of issues and there are people actively trying to make it worse, but there are reasons why people are or are trying to immigrate here in droves. It’s, on average, pretty alright and I don’t and have never felt like a prisoner inside a prison. If that’s how you feel here, I’m sorry.

        But I get it AMERICA BAD and let’s continue the Leddit trend of taking every single opportunity to shit on everything at all times.

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          I’ve given the US tons of shit and have even done so in this thread, but I’ll be the first to admit there’s plenty of reason to migrate. Much of the country is an unwalkable hellhole with mediocre salaries, but there are still at least a few cities that are 1) walkable or have good public transit, 2) have salaries that even western Europe can only dream of 3) aren’t all that bad with crime either.

          It just sucks to be poor in the US. But if you’ve got a great career, it’s one of the few places where hard work CAN technically result in becoming a millionaire, as a software engineer or doctor for an example. The country has a working population for 167 million and somehow has over 20 million millionaires.

          Also there’s so much variety of nature for one country, it’s nuts.

          If H1Bs weren’t so hard to come by, I’d probably move and work for that sweet US software engineer salary for 5 years, then move back to my homeland that has much cheaper property lol

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            It just sucks to be poor in the US.

            I mean sure, but also as opposed to where? Where does it not suck to be poor? The vast majority of the world is a) very poor compared to the US and b) life isn’t that great when you’re poor anywhere.

            I get that Europe and especially the Nordic countries get brought up a lot in this argument, but relatively few places in the world actually have decent social safety nets for the poor. Especially when you consider population numbers into account and consider where most people actually live. Most of the world is, to be completely blunt, a fucking nightmare compared to the US, unless you have money.

            Look, I’m not blind to our faults, the US has many, so, so many but I was born and lived elsewhere and I’ve traveled to other countries and talk to and sometimes get to work with people from all over the world. The US, for all its faults, is still way better to the average person than the majority of the world. And I do take a person of a random gender/identity, religion, social and monetary status, etc into account.

            Also there’s so much variety of nature for one country, it’s nuts.

            That’s a great benefit and one that I don’t take for granted, but there are so many others. You should come visit if you ever get the chance and it really isn’t as dangerous or crime ridden as you may think and there’s a lot more to this country than people think.

            We absolutely and definitely have a ton of issues and we always have, this was always an odd experiment, but again consider the fact why people from all over come here and consider that so many great, well known people and media and inventions come from here.

            Again, I get it, AMERICA BAD and it’s fun to shit on fat, stupid Americans with their constant news and shootings that happen to everyone all the time and they don’t even know where Luxembourg is and their big cars and you can’t even walk anywhere and people are angry about it and everyone’s in a constant crisis all the time. But also consider that that’s not the reality for most people and maybe some people actually prefer to sit in perfectly climate controlled, tailored to them car where they can blast their own tunes vs being on a bus or a train sometimes.

            I don’t know, I like it here and it’s generally OK.

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              What’s up with the fact that y’all always compare your country to the third world to make it look better, rather than comparing it to other developed nations?

              In fact, even in most 3rd world countries, being poor isn’t penalized as much as in the US because you can’t be hit with random six figure medical bills

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        If you don’t want to hear about America being bad, don’t go to the same places as people who live in reality.

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          You mean don’t go to places where children spew nonsense their loser parents tell them because they also made the choice to be degenerate fucking bums their entire lives?

          Then when they’re middle age and still have nothing to show for it they attempt to influence the entire system to change despite not even being able to improve their own position in life?

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          I don’t deny the problems with this country. I vote to try and make this country better. Seeing the same posts about how horrible this country is gets old after a while. A majority of Reddit and this site would agree with the flaws of the US. The people who really need to hear this stuff aren’t on here.

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            The thing is, America (many Americans anyway) are continually screaming at everyone online about how America is the best country in the world and everywhere else is a shithole - despite very few measures supporting that.

            If you insist on telling everyone you’re the best, when you have so many serious flaws, people are going to mock you for it.

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            Pointing out flaws in the country shouldn’t be seen as a personal attack or critique. Many of the victims of America are it’s citizens (e.g., the incarcerated).

            Nationalism just twists the government into our personal identity to manipulate us. Making fun of the government/system is healthy.

            This isn’t “Americans dumb” content, which attacks the actual citizens and understandably may weigh on someone.

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            I take it as “America has good ideals that it should live up to.”

            Might be pollyanna-ing… almost certainly am, but I’m trying to take this Independence Day to appreciate what we’ve got, what my ancestors came to this country for, and that the maintenance of it, and the realization of its ideals, is a lot of work we’ve got to do yet, and will always be with us.

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      And I left reddit to escape idiots like you. If I can handle being disappointed, so can you. Shut the fuck up.

    • BurtsBS@lemm.ee
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      Would you be surprised to hear that nobody forces you to break the law and go to prison in the US?