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Guys I have a foolproof plan to reach 10%
spoiler
- Stop using GNOME as default DE
- Throw cash money at Wayland devs and hire an assassin to harass slap Nvidia’s CEO
What’s the problem with GNOME?
Gnome = bad is a common Linux community circlejerk.
People will tell you Linux is about personal choice, but the second you say cool, I’m using flatpaks/Gnome/Wayland/System-D/any other thing that people get upset about, those same people will lose their fucking minds over you having a choice different to theirs.
It’s not so much a circlejerk as much as a knowledge that KDE plasma is the most approachable DE with the most polished first experience for the majority of new users
The reason it gets interpreted as Gnome bad is that both Plasma and Gnome both mainly target users who want something that just works out of the box and doesn’t have a steep learning curve, however KDE have managed to keep up better with what new users want in recent years while Gnome has fallen into a semi-trap of doing what their current/older users want. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad distro, frankly it’s great for their current users, however it does little for newer users who may not find it as intuitive as other DEs, therefore making it a worse default DE for “off-the-shelf” distros targeting new Linux users.
At the end of the day though, it is about personal choice, and nobody’s saying i3 isn’t better for powerusers or that LXDE doesn’t run faster, but if you have the knowledge that you want to install one of those or the many other DEs available, then you can just find the iso/distro/package with that DE and install it rather than just clicking the all-in-one-guaranteed-to-work-lts download button on the distro’s homepage
It’s not so much a circlejerk as much as a knowledge that KDE plasma is the most approachable DE with the most polished first experience for the majority of new users
You say that like it’s a fact rather than just your personal opinion.
The reason it gets interpreted as Gnome bad
No no no. I’m not misunderstanding people liking or preferring Plasma as hating Gnome. I love Plasma, and so should most people, it’s a very good DE. I pretty much only use Gnome and Plasma these days, and can happily praise or criticise either of them.
People do have a hateful circlejerk about Gnome. Look at any large discussion about Gnome and it gets full of haters who still can’t accept that Gnome 3 went in a very different direction to the traditional WinUX. People that say it’s shit. People that accuse the devs of being evil. Go onto a submission about a new Gnome release and you’ll find some smoothbrain making the classic wHaT fEaTuReS DiD tHeY rEmOVe tHiS TiMe joke which holds zero basis in reality.
And I’m not talking about fair criticisms either. I could rattle some off the top of my head. I’m talking about hatred.
Shitting on Gnome very much is the hip, trendy thing to do in the Reddit/Lemmy/reactionary YouTuber space.
According to many in the Linux community, Linux is all about choice, so long as your choice is the same as theirs.
It’s not so much a circlejerk as much as a knowledge that KDE plasma is the most approachable DE with the most polished first experience for the majority of new users
You say that like it’s a fact rather than just your personal opinion.
It’s a safe assumption to make though, based on the fact that KDE most closely mimics the Windows UX, which Gnome does not, and that the vast majority of human beings who use computers are most familiar with the Windows UX, hence most approachable.
I reject the premise that just because more people use Windows, a Windows UX must be the most intuitive and alternatives must appear more complicated to use.
There are more households that drive cars than ride a bike - is a car therefore a more intuitive to use transport tool than a bike?
That’s a crazy take though. Everyone knows that what you’re most familiar with is way more intuitive than something you’ve never touched in your life.
There are more households that drive cars than ride a bike - is a car therefore a more intuitive to use transport tool than a bike?
How intuitive something is only affects the initial experience. This is why driving a car usually takes a year to learn in most countries - it’s not very intuitive. If you know how to drive a car, however, you can learn to drive a bus much faster - it’s now intuitive because you already know how to drive a car, which is similar.
So of course whichever DE replicates windows the best is going to be the most intuitive. Doesn’t mean that it’s better once you’ve gotten used to it though.
I love Libadwaita. It’s so good I started to use it to develop general cross platform apps
Does “cross platform apps” include Windows in your case? If so, how is your experience compiling and packaging a libadwaita app for Windows?
Hey, sorry for the late answer, but I think you might be interested in this:
First of all, as a disclaimer: I’m not a professional front-end developer. I’m usually doing backend stuff and this is the first time I wanted to program a cross-platform desktop app. I spent a lot of time researching and settled on GTK / Libadwaita.
And I actually spent the last months building and packaging the project for every platform. With every platform I mean macOS, Linux and Windows. I strongly recommend doing this with a CI pipeline as there are many specific steps you need to follow.
I will provide a template on Github when I’m finished as well as a more in-depth blog post about all the steps and explanations. The main problem is that most is not documented at all and what’s documented is super outdated. So I had to figure out many things by myself. But the actual process, when you know how to do it, isn’t even really hard. I’ll post the links to the template here when I finished it all but it might still take some months as I currently also have other stuff to do.Thanks for coming back to this!
Why? I’ve been happily gaming on gnome for over two years now
the year of the Linux desktop is now
Year of the Steam Deck. Linux still not ready for mainstream desktop usage :(
My computer illiterate mother in law that has been using Linux for years strongly disagrees.
Sorry, Linux is ready for basic usage such as web browsing and creating a document.
It’s ready for a lot more than that, can you tell me something that Linux can’t do without mentioning a third party company that refuses to support Linux?
I tried a few games on Linux and I spent more time looking for why one game wasn’t saving my game and why another game wouldn’t actually launch with no error messages then actually playing a game.
The only games thus far that I couldn’t get to work were pirated. Id say 80%+ pirated work, and so far all legit games. Even weird launchers like FF14 (stock, not the 3rd party) and Guild Wars 2. And then of course Steam does most the work.
Everyone’s mileage varies, obvs, plus there’s different distros and games.
I’ve just recently gotten into this and installed steam through ubuntu’s store. Could be why it thought subnautica was on Linux and let me download it. I uninstalled and installed through apt-get this time, hopefully that fixes that issue.
Having issue with the Steam snap isn’t surprising, as even Valve recommends against using it. A few years ago flatpak Steam had similar issues that got fixed over time.
For now I hope you’ll have more luck with the .deb!
Sounds way too confusing, and goes against the whole idea that “Linux is easier than Windows because it has an App Store” and “you don’t have to use the command line”.
Yes, it’s sad that Canonical is pushing Snap before those kinks are ironed out. In general it’s a solid distro for people not familiar with Linux, but having to stumble over those issues is a dealbreaker.
Linux being easier than Windows is true in some ways, but it completely sidesteps issues Windows and macOS solved for a while, e.g. forcing users to upgrade. It’s annoying but some people just… don’t do the bare minimum. E.g. a friend’s dad has been using Linux for probably a decade by now, and for some reason apt auto upgrades broke (likely powerloss during upgrade). An image based OS like Fedora Atomic doesn’t have this issue, as it won’t apply updates to the running OS (by default).