I was there, I saw the thread. @TheDude, did you? It was pretty strongly in favour. Do we really need to keep waiting around to see if an instance administrated by a guy who wants to declare “cis” a slur is going to turn out okay?
https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 for context.
I think you are right and rule should be simple: if they are doing something illegal ban them immediately. If not, go and change the laws and don’t force us to be judges and responsible, because it can become easy to defederate anyone.
Today it is about transfobia (which I would hope not to have anywhere near me) but tomorrow might be something what is not bad, but some people just don’t like.
We will end up in the same hateful place reddit has been for some years now.
TLDR: We should change the laws and not fight with virtual ignoring.
It’s quite funny to envision legality being the only criterion to take into account for defederation: my home instance as well as any other indulging into media piracy, which is widely considered as theft or counterfeiting, would be blocked, but not hateful instances as long as they can “hate civilly”, shall we say.
Lemmy world has a sub dedicated to conservative hate. If you are trying to defederate against hate, make a post about that otherwise just block the problematic subs and move on.
Problem here is not you want to achieve, but wider consequences of it.
We are all just discussing options and learning what is the best course of action. Mistakes will be made but I hope will be fixed too.
Lemmy just had big growth and no one was ready for it, pushing for drastic measures is fair, but we will challenge that idea.
Additionally try to also speak about other problems it will cause and how to prevent it.