r/The_Donald now on Lemmy - Lemmy Online
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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies. In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines. The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works [/c/thedonald@sh.itjust.works] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them. The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists. Where are the instances that show face against racism? edit: to contact the admins: @donut@sh.itjust.works @TheDude@sh.itjust.works @smorks@sh.itjust.works
  • 🐱TheCat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    393·
    1 year ago

    I’m gratified that a lot of the conversations over there seem to point out that you shouldn’t defederate entire instances because of a few bad actors. Realistically we can’t all move to a new server every time a troll shows up, and the bigger the server the more likelihood of trolls.

    I havent seen the donald or exploding heads content. if I was the admin of this instance id probably want to see blatant rule breaking examples to be able to remove them. is there blatant racism and whatnot over there or is it typical stuff meant to trigger liberals?

    if there is blatant racism etc, have we reported it?

    • justastranger@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      419·
      1 year ago

      Honestly, the long-standing history of t_d’s behavior, rule-breaking and brigading, on other platforms should play heavily into the decision on this one. This instance’s admins should not wait until they cause issues here to prevent them from turning this place into a Nazi bar.

      • 🐱TheCat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        177·
        1 year ago

        its just a dangerous precedent in my opinion. Are you okay with similarly vaguely worded arguments being used to have your favorite community banned?

        Can we do a thought experiment?

        You favorite community is up for ban. What evidence would result in your agreeing to ban it?

        In my opinion whatever standard you would have for that question should apply to every community.

        • b_mcschmee@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
          214·
          1 year ago

          I mean that community does have a history so it’s not really nothing. Just cause they haven’t done it on this platform doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be considered. If the kkk created an instance but never broke any rules I’d think they’re history as an organization should be grounds for a banning. The donald is not the kkk but I still their past behavior should be considered.

            • hschen@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              13·
              1 year ago

              Wait till they find out its not just lemmy that the donald people are on, they actually exist in the world too. Can we defederate the earth too? haha

    • HTTP_404_NotFound@lemmyonline.comOPEnglish
      123·
      1 year ago

      Honestly- I think its just somebody trolling.

      The username sounds like a troll, and the news posts they were sending were… comically bad.

    • drascus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      84·
      1 year ago

      I agree with you. However there should be recourse if the wider community on an instance agrees that there is a bad actor or community that needs to be banned. I’m fairly certain if we did a poll that the community would be banned.

      • 🐱TheCat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        131·
        1 year ago

        just so you know we are rapidly setting up a community within sh.itjust.works to do just that at theagora community. There have been discussions of defederation.

        I think we are trying to get some mods in place and a voting / polling process before hitting the defederation nuke / blocking communities etc

        https://sh.itjust.works/c/agora