r/The_Donald now on Lemmy - Lemmy Online
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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies. In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines. The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works [/c/thedonald@sh.itjust.works] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them. The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists. Where are the instances that show face against racism? edit: to contact the admins: @donut@sh.itjust.works @TheDude@sh.itjust.works @smorks@sh.itjust.works
  • Contextual Idiot@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    142·
    1 year ago

    Yeah, it was sad. One dude shouting to the void, basically. If that’s all it takes to get an instance defederated, then the Fediverse is doomed to be small oases in an ocean of fear and hatred.

    • HTTP_404_NotFound@lemmyonline.comOPEnglish
      111·
      1 year ago

      Fediverse is doomed to be small oases in an ocean of fear and hatred.

      Tell me about it.

      I don’t think many people realize how little effort it would take me, to go and create a bot that just creates accounts on their instance, and then posts pro-trump things on other instances.

      Let that run for, oh. a day or two, and I imagine that would be the end of federation for everyone.

      • N0tTheBees@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        31·
        1 year ago

        I heard there is the option to enable captcha in the new 0.18 version, so there should be some protection soon.

        edit: I had it the wrong way around and the removed captcha in 0.18 to reimplement it in a future version

          • N0tTheBees@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            wow honestly a cool way to prove a point. But I’m curious about captcha (as it is not enabled here yet), is v2 really that easy to crack?

            • Difficult_Bit_1339@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              All captchas are easy to crack because there are services that employ workers to solve captchas. You can buy packages of solves and they guarantee a specific accuracy rate and solve time. You submit via an API and get a result back in a few seconds. The result may be a string or it may include a mapping of how the user interacted with the app (which your client then emulates to fool the captcha app that it is receiving human input).

              It’s just another electronic service provided by workers in low wage countries.

              Captchas mitigate the issue slightly but they’re not a magic solution to bots. They can be the difference between the instance gaining 1,000 bot accounts in a day instead of 10,000,000 however.

        • HTTP_404_NotFound@lemmyonline.comOPEnglish
          42·
          1 year ago

          There was captchas in 0.17 too.

          The problem is, captchas are not effective against bots. Its trivial to solve captchas with a bot… much quicker then we can solve them as humans.

    • God@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      102·
      1 year ago

      I specifically choose instances based on their instance block list. If they block a lot of instances, I don’t consider them. My ideal ones are the ones that are a bit free and yet are well connected, but sometimes well connected means “allied to the mass defederators” because people in general become super compliant in the face of isolation.

      Sh.itjust.works may start banning communities to regain federation to Beehaw, and then Beehaw will ask that sh.itjust.works defederate a “wrong” instance or two, and by the time we know it, we’ll all be banning the same instances, and we’ll be a cute little echo chamber of “tolerance”.

      By that same measure, I usually avoid any instance of community that claims to be a “safe place”. They’re the likeliest to always be attacking others because that’s how you stay safe, through unending violence.