I really can’t stand their skewed priorities in contrast to the state of Firefox.

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    Skewed priorities like trying to make sure that Firefox continues to exist even with the massive amount of competition in the browser space and everything being taken over by chromium. Yeah. Definitely skewed priorities.

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        They really just can’t get a break. When they take money from Google they get attacked. When they try to create other revenue streams (pocket, vpn, etc.) they get attacked. I don’t think you want the browser to be a paid for subscription product and the donations aren’t enough to reliably cover browser development.

        Maintaining and keeping secure a large standards compliant browser is decidedly expensive. And most of the expenses are not one off they are ongoing.

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        factually incorrect, they’re just paid to have them as the default search engine and they need that money to maintain the browser

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        they get paid billions of dollars and all you have to do is switch default search engines win win if you really hate it DONATE TO MOZILLA

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    Listen, I love what Mozilla stands for, or at least what they claim to stand for. But every time they’ve been asked to choose between their principles and money, they’ve chosen money. On the one hand, I kind of don’t blame them – after all, if I was a scrappy broke nonprofit singlehandedly maintaining one of the most complex and fast-moving pieces of software mankind has ever devised, I’d probably take money wherever I could get it too – but on the other, paying lip service to caring about your users’ privacy isn’t a good look

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        I’m mostly thinking of making Google the default search engine and not doing much of anything to stop its data-gathering out of the box (although I will give them credit for the Tracking Protection feature in private windows and not taking active steps to prevent people from protecting their privacy, what the hell Google), integrating the famously-invasive Pocket into the browser with no obvious way to remove it, and creating a new paid-exclusive AI help chatbot for web deevelopers that’s just ChatGPT in a trenchcoat

        Admittedly Mozilla’s track record is light years better than any of the other software companies out there, and I won’t begrudge them taking Google money in order to survive, but…

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          Are you really complaining for the default search engine? Wtf just change it. Mozzilla really needs the money to stay afloat, just don’t use Google if you don’t want to.

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            Does it? Is this really a selling point? I don’t think any layman needs to worry about documents that long and absolutely no one needs to summarize a web page in normal browsing.

            Edit: not that I’m against it or anything, just kinda stumped that this is considered important.

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              If all the competition has a useful feature and FireFox doesn’t that will only keep users away from FireFox. The unfortunate reality of today’s world is that people have low attention spans and want an AI to spoon feed them whatever garbage they want.

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            i dont fucking want ANY program “summarizing” for me. if i want to know what it says ill read the damn thing like an adult. this ““ai”” cannot be trusted because its nothing more than a big math equation. its cool tech but has no real intelligence.

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    Firefox is wonderful. Mozilla is a fucking mess.

    I have been using this browser primarily or exclusively since before it was called Firefox. I can’t tell you the earliest version I still have an installer for, because neither Wine nor Windows will run it. It remains the best option - by a long shot - but not because it’s getting any better.

    The time to burn the bird again was a decade ago.

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      You can easily remove them. Mozilla isn’t a for profit company, but they need to have money to run somehow. Dunno if you’ve seen Chrome lately but it’s 1000x worse.

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    It’s not like it used to be. Even thunderbird has had tons of great work put into it. If you’re ever sick of using weird stuff like palemoon you should see for yourself. All the extensions I liked are back.