• Otter@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    I don’t really get the big deal, it feels like a janky workaround when people could just use a different messaging platform and wait till Apple complies with the EU order

    Around where I am, lots of friends have Apple devices but chats are still scattered across various messaging platforms

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      11 months ago

      Its just the silliest things. I would love for these people to be strapped into a chair, forcibly made to download Signal and open account, and be like “Oh, deng it Buck, its really not such a big fucking deal that I was bitching about nothing in relation to”

      Do it to everyone who refuses out of non-principle and suddenly, the bullshit excuse (“but but nobody’s on it”) evaporates

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        I used Signal since it was called TextSecure and I don’t think I ever successfully got another person using it.
        Eventually uninstalled it because it was just largely useless, anytime I messaged a friend who seemed to be using it they were more confused than anything.

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          11 months ago

          Are they simple? Like whats to be confused about? Its literally a fact its no more complicated than Whatsapp, what say you now (assuming we’re all still operating in good faith)

          People who make extraordinar(ily)y silly claims like “Signal is HARD 😢”, I don’t think anyone can help them

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            No one I know uses WhatsApp either (thank fuck). No one wants to download another app that now they have to juggle between different sets of people. I’m a software dev and even I hate all this nonsense of ten different messaging apps. On any given day I might use slack, discord, Zulip, Google messages, imessage, and matrix. Two is too many, this is just ridiculous. Absolutely no one in America wants to be using this many apps to communicate. Which is why most people just use the default.

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              11 months ago

              Yeah, but I enjoy even less the notion that there are mutliple other little buddies and partners listening in and parsing/mining my conversations

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            11 months ago

            I’d argue that Signal is the cleanest and simplest messaging platform out there

            If anything, the complicated thing might be that the data is stored locally on your device, so you need to take extra steps to back up the data

            But every platform has some small quirks to learn. People figure out how to adjust to all the other “big” platforms because they want to use them. It’s not that Signal or Fediverse is harder, some people will use it as an excuse to feel justified in not switching

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          Last I checked, Signal still hasn’t fixed their giant UX problem, which is that when you first install the app, it announces you to other Signal users on your contact list. This makes it completely unusable for anybody who actually needs, you know, a secure messenger (like a domestic abuse victim).

          I mean I use Signal every day and I love it. But it irks me that they’re like “Oh we’re super secure. Unless you’re trying to get help from your abusive husband, in which case, guess what, we just snitched on you to your abusive husband! Good luck with that!”

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            Signal notifies users who have your phone number in their contact list; it doesn’t matter if you have them in theirs. It’s an unfortunate side effect of their using phone numbers as identifiers instead of usernames or friend codes or something.

            Still a problem, and you basically need a new number as a workaround if you’re trying to conceal that you’re using it. On the upside, they don’t get access to your profile without your permission, so if an ex sees that you signed up they don’t know if it’s you or if you changed your number

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        11 months ago

        Or, a step further, since the original Beeper is a Matrix server with various open source messaging bridges slapped on it, with a fancy client interface… Why not just fucking use a Matrix server with those bridges set up? Or even set up your own Matrix server and iMessage bridge?

        Beeper is literally paying people to set up open sources services for you. I’m not against this, it’s a good business model, but Beeper has obviously put the cart before the horse here.

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        11 months ago

        Signal is just another walled garden silo with no real value over WhatsApp just owned by a different organization. I won’t use anything which is not XMPP compatible.

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        11 months ago

        Ah good to know, seems more of a thing in the US

        Other messaging platforms it is