The reddit piracy community was in a neverending struggle to avoid being banned from the site, constantly censoring and restricting what people could post to keep the reddit admins happy. What’s the situation with that sort of thing on lemmy? Is it a free for all? Same situation as back there? Something in between? I guess we may all find out together…

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    Judging by the IP address, lemmy.ml seems to be located in France. That’s not fantastic for take-down notices, as far as I’m aware.

    I’m in Serbia, land of the free, home of the torrents. I don’t know if there are VPS providers here, but if so, it’s a good country for hosting anything but government criticism (not that you’d need to criticize Vućić the benevolent, long may he reign).

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    There might be some issues with lemmy.ml itself after a while, but the community should be able to move to a different instance if it becomes a problem on one.

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      Are you referring to physical issues with Lemmy.ml, like staying reliable, or some future philosophical changes?

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        It honestly could be either. But the most likely thing to happen is a big company (Disney, HBO, Netflix, ect) sends lemmy.ml a take down request that the mods decide is not worth fighting and they nuke the community. The nice thing is someone could always spin up an instance focused on piracy and ignore take down requests.

        I actually think it would be really cool to have a Lemmy instance in Switzerland or somewhere that hosts communities like piracy, open signups, cracked games, ect.

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        It’s entirely possible that in the future lemmy.ml may be taken over by admins who disagree with piracy, taken down by a government, or simply run out of money to pay for hosting costs. If that happens it shouldn’t be a huge problem as the federated nature of Lemmy shields other instances from stuff like that going down in a separate instance!

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          Oh, I gotcha! I thought you had some immediate knowledge I didn’t – the reddit thing has me a bit jumpy I guess. lol. Lemmy.ml seems pretty chill, that’s what I joined here, so I hope it stays sane!

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            It will be different if millions join in and ot gets the attention of some company or the other. The good thing is that the comm can always move to another instance.

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    Genuinely it would be best for someone to make a piracy-focused instance in a country that has loose copyright laws. Then we can have separate communities for each type of piracy. i.e. a main piracy.co.ck website, then a !piracy community just for general piracy discussion and news, communities for books (!books, !textbooks), communities for movies (!movies, !moviesespañol, !moviesbollywood), individual communities for different game consoles (!pc, !switch, !ps3, !amstradcpc), and so on and so forth.

    To help with server load we could even maybe set it up so nobody can make accounts on it and can only make posts from accounts on other servers? I don’t know if that would help or is a possible configuration but it’s worth a thought I think.

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      The /r/piracy subreddit is already blacked out and directing to https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy. I don’t know the history of that instance but it seems to be mostly piracy-focused communities. Could be what you’re talking about has happened already.

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    Hey, I’d strongly recommend using njal.la or 1984.is to get a VPS and run your own instance from it. Both services are organisationally designed to fend off DMCA and other takedown notices. Like literally, the Njalla creator has a whole page where he mockingly replies to such requests.

    Njalla is based in Sweden, 1984 in Iceland. Both accept anonymous crypto payments, but only 1984 accepts Monero.

    More generally, I’d recommend these two services to anyone interested in running an instance catered to “risky” topics like piracy.

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    It’s scary , cos lemy.ml doesn’t want the whole website deleted because Disney and Nintendo find one of their files here ,

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      Yeah I think hosting a piracy community on the largest instance run by the devs is counterintuitive. Makes much more sense to host it on one of the 200 other instances

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        This is why it’s important that no one instance become the “main” instance for a federated service (see also: mastodon.social getting a lot of flack for officially becoming the default server). If that instance goes down then it suddenly takes a huge chunk of users and content with it. So long as lemmy.ml is one among dozens then all is good!

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          Why not load balance all content to all instances? So if an instance gets killed, the content remains. Or at least a backup strategy to rebuild an instance in the event of a take down

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            The ActivityPub protocol already does the “load balancing” part of your suggestion, it’s the core feature of it in fact. But at the same time, the community itself is still only hosted on one server, so if it’s removed there then all the previous content becomes “orphaned”, but it still remains on all previously subscribed/participating servers.

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    Could use a sprinkling of fresh ground white pepper but otherwise absolutely passable.

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    What if they threat the Lemmy.ml owners to handout users data just like they did with reddit? What type of data does this instance collect?

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    I heard lemmy.ml bans/removes things critical of China/CCP, but haven’t tested it yet. Maybe someone may chime in with experiences.

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      I heard

      If you’re going to say something like that you should back it up with evidence.

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        https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5781

        here’s the proof you asked for, including mod logs.

        TLDR: posts critical of the Chinese ruling party seems to be getting taken down, including mainstream news articles

        that being said, I personally just arrived here, have had zero censorship experiences here so far, and am hoping for the best

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          God damn that is so disturbing. I’m already losing hope for this platform if things like this are already happening. People should be free to speak as they please.

          If you disagree, dispute the argument. I cannot stand ban culture!