• Mothra@mander.xyz
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      1 year ago

      You can just use NewPipe background player. NewPipe lets you create and save playlists. No ads.

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          I find it inconvenient to have limited skips and depend on one service to give you the song you want with the version you want. Also spotify ui doesn’t make sense to me, things just don’t work at times. Not to mention the ads.

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              I don’t like paid services, especially when you can get the same or most of the same stuff for free. It’s just not worth it for me, so that is my suggested alternative, doesn’t work for everyone.

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                Unlike movie and tv streaming music streaming convenience is no contest for piracy if you’re an enthusiastic.

                And this is coming from someone would download albums and discogrpahies, using programs to meticulously tag and organize them. I wish I had the time and patience now, and for the highlights of my collection I will, but with my music craving a music stream subscription is well worth it.

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        Mp3s from YT are garbage quality, it’s double transcoding from YT’s already low quality input.

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            Then you probably don’t know any better because the vast majority of YT uploads are terrible quality. If you have anywhere near decent headphones/earbuds you can hear the difference immediately.

            • krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              1 year ago

              Well I’ve used spotify with and without headphones on popular phones, I can’t tell the difference from youtube. I usually download the music directly from the original uploader.

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          You can download audio from YouTube as 160kbps opus files, which aren’t lossless sure but it’s the highest quality you can get from YouTube if alternate means aren’t an option.

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              For mp3 sure, but for opus standards 160kbps is great. I read that 128kbps is generally considered the most you need but 160kbps smooths over any artifacts, assuming the source file doesn’t have them.

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          Yeah. If you’re gonna be downloading music from youtube, might as well just torrent flac or at least 320kbps quality instead.

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        I was big into downloading before streaming services were a thing. Music streaming is one of the few services that’s totally worth my money: no hassle and I rarely have to resort to other platforms to find what I want (very different from video streaming, which totally sucks when it comes to that).

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          100% this. Paying $12 a month for basically all music I’ll ever want to listen to, is just an amazing deal. It’s so convenient. Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

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            Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

            Yep, that’s the step they forgot: be more convenient than the pirates.

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        Can I use any of those at the same time I am playing a game on ps3/ps4/ps5 they way they have integrated spotify? I use spotify because it is available on the devices I use. I would use bandcamp on them if it were an option as I love my collection there but, it is not available on many of the devices I use.

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          personally I don’t find that convinience worth it for the money/ads and other inconveniences, but that varies from person to person

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      1. Listen on YT with adblock
      2. Download audio with Newpipe (OPUS 160kbps)
      3. Manage files with Amaze
      4. Listen with VLC

      I like this model, because YT has niche creators and I dont have to care about “Spotify changes X” news. Note: I have 1.5GB songs stored locally and listen ~30 minutes daily. I acknowledge discovering new songs is slower

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      Well, piracy, but I’d say apple music or tidal, etc are even better than Spotify. There are services for transferring your playlists.

      Some are paid but if it’s just a one time transfer you could do them all in a free trial window.