• ArugulaZ@kbin.social
    331·
    1 year ago

    Jellyfin? What is that, some computer based television network you populate and schedule yourself? Because I totally would want that. That would rule.

    • devdad@programming.devEnglish
      111·
      1 year ago

      Unsure if your asking seriously (if not, whooosh to me), but it’s an open source alternative to Plex.

      Plex is a media server that you run to host your TV shows and movies. Think of a self-hosted Netflix.

    • bizzmarquee@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      What you’re describing is something I’ve been on the lookout for, still looking!

    • Imreallybored@lemmy.oneEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Not sure about Jellyfin, but Plex has a related app ErsatzTV that might be exactly what you’re looking for

  • tun@lemm.eeEnglish
    193·
    1 year ago

    When the time comes for them to watch, they have their own version of our favorites - remake or remastered, adaptations or whole different series.

    Now the collection is for the dads’ nostalgia.

    • Kalash@feddit.chEnglish
      29·
      1 year ago

      Have you seen the recent remakes of disney Films?

      Let’s just say, they won’t become timeless classics like the original animated movies.

      • tun@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I think toy stories span from 1995 to 2019 (over 2 decades). If someone born 1990, ther is a chance that his child could also share the same enthusiasm about the toy story.

        I was born in 80s and I was thinking about little mermaid, beauty and the beast, snow white, tom and Jerry, Hercules, etc.

    • tun@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I am not against the collecting.

      I myself have a collection for my sons. But I couldn’t introduce my favorites to them. The collection will be of value when they are exposed to the current ones and they want to backtrack.

      It is just my frustration written as comment to this post.

  • DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zoneEnglish
    15·
    1 year ago

    Maybe a dumb question, but how is this better than having your files on a nas? I have a nas and just play my media files from there on my tv and laptop. What do I get from having jellyfin?

    • Barky@lemmy.zipEnglish
      30·
      1 year ago

      A slick interface with nice title cards and pictures, feels like your own personal streaming service with no drawback

      • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        111·
        1 year ago

        Kodi/XBMC has been providing that for like 20 years though…

        What jellyfin does provide that Kodi doesn’t is on the fly transcoding for watching on mobile device and remote access. If you don’t need that, Kodi might be a better choice providing a far wider array of features.

          • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            41·
            1 year ago

            That’s fine, but it still doesn’t do a tenth of what Kodi can do.

            I also don’t really see how it’s easier in terms of browsing. It’s a list of movies and tv shows…

            • frozenicecube@lemmy.caEnglish
              6·
              1 year ago

              You’re not wrong but there are still drawbacks to Kodi where Jellyfin ends up being better. In my use case, with 5 tvs in the house, 2 are hooked up to Nvidia shield tvs but the other 3 are Chromecast w/ Google TV which have very limited storage unless I want to spend a fortune in hubs for each one to add a USB drive or micro SD.

              With kodi installed I would regularly hit the storage limit of the device and have all kinds of weird bugs. Just as an example I had my daughter set up with a kids only account, but account switching would cause Kodi to become unresponsive for anywhere from 30 seconds to having to do a hard reset of the device. Jellyfin gives me the same access to my library with a lighter, more streamlined, persistent interface across devices and with easy and fast profiles. It still allows me to keep a pi as the host so the whole setup is low power (important for me as we’re on solar, every watt helps!)

              I don’t really need the Kodi plugins I used to have if the main purpose of streaming my local content isn’t smooth and simple for the family. This is coming from a long time XBMC user, I’ve been running it since my original modded Xbox in the early 2000s.

              • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                26·
                1 year ago

                Then you are doing it wrong. I have three instances of Kodi, one of them on completely hard drive less machine booted via PXE, the other two are Pis with minimal is on an SD card. All the media’s are stored on a NAS, and all the metadata is shared between the instances on MySQL, all of it (profiles, views, etc) shared across all the instances.,

                • frozenicecube@lemmy.caEnglish
                  5·
                  1 year ago

                  “Wrong,” or a matter of preference and willingness to sink time into the project. Your setup sounds great, but it’s also easy enough for me to do a simple apk install for Jellyfin and host it on the pi that already has my network shares vs spending the time setting up a database and a local DHCP server etc. etc. Netboot is great but with a fraction of the setup with Jellyfin my needs were met, which was my original point. Also how many end users will take this route? Realistically not many.

                  Don’t get me wrong this was something i’d totally be into a decade ago so I get where you’re coming from, love the idea of having the metadata and everything scraped centralized, but what I have works and it’s easyyyyyyyy 🤷‍♂️

        • _spiffy@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          I just recently set up jellyfin as a way for my family to access the stored media outside of my house. Our current Networking setup doesn’t play nicely with VPNs so this was an easy way to do that.

    • HTTP_404_NotFound@lemmyonline.comEnglish
      14·
      1 year ago

      The files are still stored on a NAS.

      But, Jellyfin/Plex has the advantage you get a nice pretty “app” that works on your TV/Roku/AndroidTV/etc. It handles transcoding if needed, keeps track of what you have watched, and lets you know when new things pop up.

    • Stephen304@lemmy.mlEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      I use both plex and jellyfin and my files are on a nas. Previously truenas but now synology. I just mount my collection over smb to my Intel nuc with quick sync so that Plex/jellyfin can provide me and my friends a slick UI as well as transcoding (can store stuff in hevc, flac, 5.1 or 7.1 dts hd ma and not worry about codec support on each device), a nice web player with subtitles /audio track selection, and nice apps on every device to access the collection.

      But yeah NAS and jellyfin aren’t mutually exclusive, many people use them together.

    • grue@lemmy.mlEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      It keeps track of which files you’ve played (e.g. to automatically pick the next episode in a series), it automatically downloads metadata and cover art so you have a nice browsing interface, it manages multiple profiles so that e.g. you can limit your kids’ access to only G and TV-Y or filter out genres a user doesn’t like, it lets you set parental controls to limit the amount of time watched in a day (or disable it at certain times of day), etc.

    • thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      Jellyfin and plex are basically just GUIs to make playing videos from your NAS feel like you’re using a streaming service. They do a bunch more stuff, but in general that’s what they’re for.

      Like, you don’t need a GUI for Linux, but it can certainly make the experience better.

    • jayandp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      Jellyfin/Plex/Emby turn your media collection into your own personal Netflix. They have apps for multiple platforms, you can setup user access controls, parental controls based off age ratings, track progress through shows and movies, search and organize based off genre and tags, and much more. Also, they can handle on the fly transcoding of the media, so if a device doesn’t support a specific codec or container it can be converted into another, or if the user is on a poor Internet connection which can’t handle a 4K video, it can downgrade the quality to make it easier to stream on the poor connection.

      Overall, they just provide a better experience when consuming media.

      • Boo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Also, they’re not exclusive. I have a nas with more space but essentially no ability to transcode media, so I’ve mounted that volume via NFS on a laptop I run jellyfin which gives me excellent transcoding and a very smooth experience.

  • Roundcat@kbin.social
    161·
    1 year ago

    Goes through hard drive with kid

    “Everything the light touches, is our kingdom!”

    • theoldman@infosec.pubEnglish
      12·
      1 year ago

      How does one get a NAS without spending an arm and leg these days? I started pirating because I was broke, I don’t have triple digits to spend on hardware.

      An old PC with a bunch of hard drives (they shouldn’t be NAS drives necessarily) + TrueNas. The main cost will be the hard drives which is about 20$/TB

      • Majestic@lemmy.mlEnglish
        72·
        1 year ago

        $20/TB is a bad deal.

        You can get WD Red Pro’s on sale twice a year for $16/TB.

        Further you can order unused data center and enterprise drives for anything from $11-$16/TB and those things are built to take way more use and abuse than home users can throw at them.

        I would not pay above $17/TB for traditional magnetic spinning disk storage.

        • Baut [she/her] auf.@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          That’s like incredibly less than what I have been able to find. Where exactly would they be on sale for that cheap?
          Don’t want to buy used since you never know when they will go south on you

          • Majestic@lemmy.mlEnglish
            21·
            1 year ago

            https://diskprices.com/

            Beware MDD at the top is alleged to sell drives they’ve refurbished which are essentially used but with wiped smart. Other cheap deals… check sellers. If it’s not sold and shipped by Amazon it could be slightly used drives (usually third party sellers do a mix so some people get brand new, others not so much). Also beware third party sellers and Amazon itself often sell OEM drives without warranty. I always check the serials online before opening the anti-static bag to make sure it’s in warranty.

            Also: shucks.top

            You need to wait and watch for the good deals but they come around multiple times a year.

            Also, understand there are certain storage ranges to get these prices. Generally 8-18TB drives are best deals per TB. You pay a premium for 20-22 top size drives as well as for smaller drives like 2-4TB. 14TB seems to be the current sweet spot most of the time.

            Lastly. Understand SMR drives are alright for backups but not ideal for streaming high bitrate content from or using to seed files. CMR is better.

              • Majestic@lemmy.mlEnglish
                21·
                1 year ago

                Looking up technical specs for the drive it’s often mentioned on data sheets (often as conventional magnetic recording drive or else shingled if SMR). Other than that third parties have compiled lists and many but not all Amazon pages in tech specs mention it if you look closely. Try searching drive-model and cmr and then smr and see what comes up. Beware some drive families different sizes of drive may be cmr vs smr. WD red pro and ultra star DC line are all CMR, WD blues many are SMR. WD black as far as I know are all CMR. WD red (non-pro) can be SMR I believe.

                I’ll be honest, the real difference is getting a 7200 vs 5400 RPM drive, particularly one with a larger cache, I’d always go for 7200 except for purely offline backup stuff.

                In terms of external drives and shucking, it’s largely a crapshoot. You can try searching what drives others found in a model, however they’re subject to change.

                Bottom line: If money is tight and it’s just you, you can absolutely do SMR and 5400 RPM external drives and have a smooth experience as long as we’re talking re-encodes not raw Blu-ray remuxes (I have seen an external 5400RPM SMR drive choke and fail trying to smoothly play a file at 24MB/s bitrate but it worked fine with 10MB/s re-encodes, even those with burst rates of 17MB/s). If you can afford a bit more try to go 7200 and CMR.

          • Majestic@lemmy.mlEnglish
            61·
            1 year ago

            OP said money was tight.

            And why pay more for less? Over the purchase of 3 hard drives I save enough to get a fourth “free” off the difference in savings.

            $4x14tb=$56 for example.

            But please. Continue to pay whatever you want. More cheap drives for me.

    • constantokra@lemmy.oneEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      You can even start with an old laptop and external drives. Plenty of people shuck them anyway, so you’re not exactly overpaying. They’ll just be a bit slow. But if you’re mostly planning on streaming video that doesn’t matter too much.

      If you do have a little to spend, you can do a ‘naskiller’ build. Just search for it and pick one. Basically some people put together lists of cheap, reliable used hardware you can get to build a pretty great nas, with different flavors. ‘Quiet’ ‘fast’ ‘compact’. I built one and went all out. I think it was about 600 bucks without the drives. Build up from there.

  • fernandu00@lemmy.mlEnglish
    10·
    1 year ago

    I have a small 1tb collection …love jellyfin and it’s UI but I miss kodi when it comes to scrapping metadata and playing all formats …I use jellyfin mostly because of its ui and because my crappy TV can’t handle kodi very well

      • fernandu00@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Yeah I tried one of them but either way I’d have to follow the jellyfin standards to name the files and have to use kodi to run them …the best way for me would be having kodi to scrape the library no matter how messy it is …and jellyfin would just play it because my TV is garbage and crashes on kodi

  • balderdash@lemmy.zipEnglish
    5·
    1 year ago

    There’s a large possibility that your kids will be apathetic towards the media that you watch now. When’s the last time you listened to a song or watched tv from the 50?

    (I can hear you typing right now; yes, I myself even watch the Adams Family and listen to psychedelic rock every now and again, but that’s not typical.)