They have approximately now lost over 5000 subscribers which equates to about $25000 per month or $300000 per year in lost revenue.
They have approximately now lost over 5000 subscribers which equates to about $25000 per month or $300000 per year in lost revenue.
There are so many stories about them having a toxic workplace. Happy employees generally don’t record all hands meetings on sensitive subjects, which occured after that onr employee left. It’s pretty safe to say it’s a toxic environment and investigations will simply reveal the degree of toxicity. I don’t blame anyone who wants to donate money to toxic people.
Allegations kickstart an investigative process to validate or invalidate a claim. I’m not at all saying that the allegations might not be true (before anyone misconstrues my position). But saying “it’s pretty safe to say it’s s toxic environnement and investigating will reveal the degree of toxicity” is jumping to conclusions.
Allegations and stories are NOT evidence. They are claims that need to be verified. This is why, before the days of DNA testing, so many people were wrongly convicted.
The probability is high that LMG has institutional toxicity. I’m just saying to allow for due process before passing judgement. And once everything is on the table, go HAM.
They have responded poorly to some of the allegations. This isn’t some court system where exemplary evidence is required for conviction. If I think people are acting sketchy then I don’t really care about supporting them.
And that’s your prerogative lol. I just personally choose to follow due process prior to judgement. Otherwise, I would be repeating the same mistake Linus did (continuously), which is a pre-mature emotional response. Doesn’t mean it has to be followed by everyone, and vice versa.
Yeah. That is some straight up bullshit.
Do you know why the phrase “believe victims”/“believe women” are so important?
Because the legal system constantly fails. Unless there is security camera footage or former employees willing to completely torpedo their own careers, there is no evidence that assault or even abuse happened. And considering Madison mentions discussion of a “verbal” agreement, the abusers know this. They don’t put stuff in writing. So anything she says will be “hearsay”.
Its the same with rape. Abusers are not idiots. They aren’t going to swoop in, beat up a crowd of people, and carry their target away. They pick targets who are off on their own or who “have a reputation”. And then, even if you get a rape kit done IMMEDIATELY, all that really proves is “Well, you two had sex and it was rough. Since you are a slut, you probably asked for it”
This shit happens all the time. And on the off chance someone pushes it to the point of an investigation or even a court trial: They are demolished because every single thing they ever did in their life is used to characterize them as a lying skank and so forth. And the abusers generally have really good lawyers and a judge who feels “boys will be boys”
Nobody is saying you need to run up and put Linus and James and anyone else in chains. But maybe you should fucking listen to victims, who know they are pretty much ruining their reputation and likely hurting job prospects because now “they will tattle over any little thing”, rather than insisting that due process will sort it all out.
Because, even if LMG were REAL fucking stupid and put all of this in writing, saved all the tapes, and have employees who never want to work in media or “tech” again: Best case scenario, one or two people get thrown under the bus and then the company moves on like this never happened. All while people pat themselves on the back for waiting for a “proper investigation”. Ubisoft is a great example of this.
Because, as it stands? Others have already corroborated Madison’s story to at least some degree. And this is not the first time someone has said they felt uncomfortable interacting with Linus and/or LMG because of the “boy’s club” mentality.
This shit is right up there with Enlightened Centrism in terms of enabling horrific shit. Do better.
You seem to lean on a number of mis-assumptions to drive your rage-driven response. As such you prove my point exactly.
I said due process. You equate that to a legal context and legal system. I never referenced the legal system because I know full well the shortcomings of a justice system. They are not designed to seek truth but to right the wronged. The legal system is flawed.
I don’t know how to respond to the remainder of your post, because again, they are made based on assumptions of things that I did not even reference in my comments. Rape victims and abusers? Linus and James in chains?
Literally all I was advocating for is that I personally prefer to follow through a process before passing judgement. If you really want to know my position on the matter, you can read my comment history, instead of making assumptions on a single comment. This is exactly what I mean by emotional response, and is no different than Linus’ outburst.
Edit: it seems from your comment history you’ve also misconstrued other people’s comments. It may be good to take a step back and look at things objectively, or risk repeating the exact same mistake Linus made. To quote you: do better.
I think that’s fair and respect your decision to do so.