• rckclmbr@lemm.ee
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    Can we keep Russian memes out of politics please? it’s such a load of bullshit, it contributes nothing to the discussion and memes have been pushing propaganda since the first trump election. I really wish we (lemm.ee, but really everyone) would defederate from hexbear, it’s such a cesspool

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      That’s Ron Desantis’s face imposed the famous painting “Saturn Devouring his Son”. The son has been replaced with pudding to reference the time Ron ate a cup of pudding with his fingers.

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        Appreciate the description. Whats your take on why only hexbear users are replying to me?

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          we don’t have downvotes and we have an anti-lurker culture. so if we see a bad take, we reply. in this case you’ve thoroughly confused us with this “Saturn Devours his Son” is Russian take.

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            Can you not keep your culture inside your instance and stop disrupting people’s conversations elsewhere?

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              We can if people stop this “everything i don’t like is a Russian botnet” bs, i mean come the fuck on, do you seriously believe Russia is the only actor out there doing online propaganda? What do you think the CIA is for? Or the psyops branch of the USAF that was posting so hard an Airforce Base got an award for being the town most active on reddit? Or all these reactionary foundations like the Alliance Defending Freedom or the Heritage Foundation? The state-sponsored ones like the National Endowment for Democracy? The PR departments of oil companies spreading climate change denial? And that’s just a small part of who’s engineering public opinion in the US, wait till you see the shit the multitudes of European governments, parties, corporations and churches get up to, or the Gulf states with their vested interest in keeping fossil capitalism going. Yes, the Russian government obviously does that as well, as do private actors in Russia like Vladimir Yakunin and Konstantin Malofeyev who both sponsor queerphobic and mysogynist groups all over the EU, but if you think that Russian disinfo campaigns are the only game in town, or even make up a plurality of disinfo funding, or that propaganda extends only to things you personally disapprove of, you need to wake the fuck up and realize that your view of the world is a dumbass James Bond movie from the 1980s.

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                Yes, because you’re federated to Lemmy.ml, it doesn’t make this community your instances community.

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                  If you don’t want to federate with Hexbear go make an account on an instance that isn’t federated with Hexbear. You have the tools to solve this yourself and you aren’t using them

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                    It’s not about posting, it’s about the standard of posting, lots of it isn’t engaging with conversation, but just posting silly emoticons.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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          We’re terminally online in ways you people wouldn’t believe.

          Before Spez shut us down we were I think the third most active site on Reddit by posting velocity, after an NBA sub with 2.3 million people. We post in a completely different way that most online communities.

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          I’m aware of the existence of Russian “meme warfare” though I think its effect on politics in America is severely overstated.

          But uh, how is this meme that you’re complaining about a “Russian meme”. Or are you just under the delusion that all political memes are Russian or something? How is making fun of Desantis for the pudding thing something Russians would do?

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            I dont know for fact, but I treat any political meme like it might. This combined with it not being relevant to the discussion would make me prefer to just not have them at all

            I appreciate your comment though, it challenged assumptions without being egregious

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              I dont know for fact, but I treat any political meme like it might.

              I don’t really think this is a rational or particularly healthy stance to take on political memes. I can maybe understand if your stance was just “keep the worldnews posts serious”, though I’d disagree with that too. But saying that you’re trying to avoid Russian influence by avoiding memes is… idk. Doesn’t really make sense to me. Political memes aren’t inherently Russian.

              You also have to consider Russia’s like, motives here. I don’t really see a reason for them to want to make pudding jokes about DeSantis.

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                I appreciate your concern, but can assure you I’m mentally healthy

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                  I appreciate your concern, but can assure you I’m mentally healthy

                  you totally might be, but the bare fact that you had to say this to someone today should probably prompt you to reflect a bit about all this friend

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                    They’re mentally healthy for a westerner

                    Which is so rabidly racist and xenophobic that they’re calling out random memes for being Russian as an insult

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                    I’m gonna push back on this fam. It’s peak reddit-logo libshittery to internet diagnose someone with mental health problems as a way to “critique” their positions. We’re not about that shit.

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              So you refuse to use or enjoy ANY meme that is political? Because supposedly your countrymen are so stupid that they got swayed by foreign memes into voting for trump?

              That is a line of reasoning I guess.

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              I dont know for fact, but I treat any political meme like it might. This combined with it not being relevant to the discussion would make me prefer to just not have them at all

              Bro first of all it dont really matter what you want. Second of all it dont think its really healthy to assume any political meme you see is of russian origin lol thats bizarre and incredibly weird

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          The 4chaner pretending their meme magic was invoking ancient gods seem like they have a closer conrction to reality than whoever wrote that. Unless im an idiot and its satire in wich case great bit.

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          US institutes could get their point across a lot better if they didn’t hide all their propaganda behind paywalls.

          All I can read is the first paragraph.