The TL;DR of this is that the admins of Beehaw are extremely sensitive and their “safe space” isn’t virtuous enough for them. Nothing of value was lost.
Looking at the blocked instance list of beehaw, they blocked mostly just tankie, rightwing and porn related instances. Far from being extremely sensitive IMO.
You mean they are blocking you and lemmy.world. I am on feddit.de.
And beehaw is blocking you, because your easy registration process allowed a bunch of trolls to wreak havoc. A better vetting process could prevent future instances of defederation.
To me it seems like their admins want total control and aren’t satisfied with the level of control they can bring to bear on external instance users. Hence their focus on ‘moderator tools’ and ‘bad actors’ and ‘open registration’ as issues.
They don’t allow community creation, and all their communities are moderated by admins. But if my niche community or post grows on lemmy.world or here and their users can see it, we’ve usurped their control.
It seems to me like an outshoot of the Reddit default sub power modding approach
lol! I was kind of looking at them like a cult yesterday. The argument about safe spaces, and supporting minorities seems like a red herring to me considering I got banned 2 days ago for expressing a minority experience. This isn’t about “tolerating intolerance”, they want an echo chamber.
The authoritian push is why I left Reddit. Beehaw can do what they want, but I want to talk to a people with differing opinions, and perspectives. I want to argue with people I disagree with, I want to learn new things and challenge my beliefs. I want to see people analyse, and break down discussions to show their flaws, I want to see ideas scrutinized.
Reddit use to be be a great hub for that kind of content, now any heated topic just gets locked.
Current internet culture makes me feel like Dennis Leary in demolition man.
Quote: You got that right. See, according to Cocteau’s plan, I’m the enemy. Cause I like to think, I like to read. I’m into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I’m the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, “Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?” I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I’ve seen the future, you know what it is? It’s a 47-year-old virgin sittin’ around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing “I’m an Oscar-Meyer Wiener”. You wanna live on top, you gotta live Cocteau’s way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here, maybe starve to death.
Judging by the insane amount of downvotes on my TLC, no one here wants that either. Seems to be mostly kbin users that are trying to be the self-righteous “voices of reason” in the comments here. If anyone should be defedded it’s kbin.
Is that your position based on the actual content over there, or is that just a reaction to an instance (any instance) defederating? Because that would feel like a pessimistic carryover attitude from reddit.
Lemmy isn’t reddit. Everyone, including mods who have been doing this for more than the past week, is adjusting to the reddit migration & inpouring of users who expect it to function the same as reddit, and may be frustrated that it doesn’t. /edit
I don’t quite vibe with the comments in the thread that seem to say Beehaw’s four mods should have had server structure and manpower “long before now” just because the instance has been around for 18mos. That’s a stupidly brief period to try and evaluate through the lens of a flood of new users.
I’m not sure I blame anybody who wants to hit the panic button this week. None of us know what the traffic in any instance will look like in another seven days.
Oh? No surprise I guess. But I took that to be their meaning, yeah lol.
I was nearing the end of my rope that day with reddit evacuees, 48 hours into their acquaintance with Lemmy and dropping reactionary snark at the Beehaw thing instead of listening and learning about what the Fediverse is.
The Beehaw threads felt like they disproportionately full of day-old accounts saying “good riddance,” and I was annoyed.
I think you may be misunderstanding me, edit: or I may be misunderstanding you, but if you’re actually that juiced up about the Beehaw mods then I won’t get in your way :)
Ideally the community of instances would take action against beehaw and defederate them en masse, strengthening the wall they decided to erect. Until they write up an apology letter.
But hey, that ain’t gonna happen.
I’m not juiced up, I’m just watching the drama, and honestly, this is nothing unexpected. The type of people who like to suppress any deviation from the party line just can’t act otherwise.
The TL;DR of this is that the admins of Beehaw are extremely sensitive and their “safe space” isn’t virtuous enough for them. Nothing of value was lost.
Let’s not create an instance war already…
Looking at the blocked instance list of beehaw, they blocked mostly just tankie, rightwing and porn related instances. Far from being extremely sensitive IMO.
Look again, they are also blocking us and lemmy.world.
You mean they are blocking you and lemmy.world. I am on feddit.de.
And beehaw is blocking you, because your easy registration process allowed a bunch of trolls to wreak havoc. A better vetting process could prevent future instances of defederation.
Check where you are posting. “Us” is sh.itjust.works.
Thanks captain obvious.
I don’t want a curated space with a vetting process. Those that do can join those spaces, better off that way.
You can tell from that novel they wrote what their true intentions are. Read between the lines and pay attention.
I’m retarded what are their true intentions?
To me it seems like their admins want total control and aren’t satisfied with the level of control they can bring to bear on external instance users. Hence their focus on ‘moderator tools’ and ‘bad actors’ and ‘open registration’ as issues.
They don’t allow community creation, and all their communities are moderated by admins. But if my niche community or post grows on lemmy.world or here and their users can see it, we’ve usurped their control.
It seems to me like an outshoot of the Reddit default sub power modding approach
lol! I was kind of looking at them like a cult yesterday. The argument about safe spaces, and supporting minorities seems like a red herring to me considering I got banned 2 days ago for expressing a minority experience. This isn’t about “tolerating intolerance”, they want an echo chamber.
The authoritian push is why I left Reddit. Beehaw can do what they want, but I want to talk to a people with differing opinions, and perspectives. I want to argue with people I disagree with, I want to learn new things and challenge my beliefs. I want to see people analyse, and break down discussions to show their flaws, I want to see ideas scrutinized.
Reddit use to be be a great hub for that kind of content, now any heated topic just gets locked.
I don’t know how to end this, but yeah!
Current internet culture makes me feel like Dennis Leary in demolition man.
Quote: You got that right. See, according to Cocteau’s plan, I’m the enemy. Cause I like to think, I like to read. I’m into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I’m the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, “Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?” I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I’ve seen the future, you know what it is? It’s a 47-year-old virgin sittin’ around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing “I’m an Oscar-Meyer Wiener”. You wanna live on top, you gotta live Cocteau’s way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here, maybe starve to death.
Scene.
You couldn’t be more on point with this reference. I hate modern oppressive internet culture.
Judging by the insane amount of downvotes on my TLC, no one here wants that either. Seems to be mostly kbin users that are trying to be the self-righteous “voices of reason” in the comments here. If anyone should be defedded it’s kbin.
Finally a smart person. This is a good read on the situation.
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Is that your position based on the actual content over there, or is that just a reaction to an instance (any instance) defederating? Because that would feel like a pessimistic carryover attitude from reddit.
Lemmy isn’t reddit. Everyone, including mods who have been doing this for more than the past week, is adjusting to the reddit migration & inpouring of users who expect it to function the same as reddit, and may be frustrated that it doesn’t. /edit
I don’t quite vibe with the comments in the thread that seem to say Beehaw’s four mods should have had server structure and manpower “long before now” just because the instance has been around for 18mos. That’s a stupidly brief period to try and evaluate through the lens of a flood of new users.
I’m not sure I blame anybody who wants to hit the panic button this week. None of us know what the traffic in any instance will look like in another seven days.
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And the announcement is hardly a novel.
I take that to mean “mingling with the minds of those who are ok with such an action is not worthwhile anyway”.
Then again, the original comment is deleted by creator, so what do I know. Looks like the entire account is gone, dude left.
Oh? No surprise I guess. But I took that to be their meaning, yeah lol.
I was nearing the end of my rope that day with reddit evacuees, 48 hours into their acquaintance with Lemmy and dropping reactionary snark at the Beehaw thing instead of listening and learning about what the Fediverse is.
The Beehaw threads felt like they disproportionately full of day-old accounts saying “good riddance,” and I was annoyed.
Well here’s an account equal to yours in age saying good riddance.
I think you may be misunderstanding me, edit: or I may be misunderstanding you, but if you’re actually that juiced up about the Beehaw mods then I won’t get in your way :)
Ideally the community of instances would take action against beehaw and defederate them en masse, strengthening the wall they decided to erect. Until they write up an apology letter.
But hey, that ain’t gonna happen.
I’m not juiced up, I’m just watching the drama, and honestly, this is nothing unexpected. The type of people who like to suppress any deviation from the party line just can’t act otherwise.
I need more popcorn.
You’re right, the Beehaw post of is more of a compendium. Your comment is a novel.