A note on Universal Monk:

jordanlund@lemmy.world · edit-2 25 days ago

A note on Universal Monk:

pooperNickel@lemm.ee · 25 days ago

Firstly, thank you for that ban. Did you notice the duplicate section in my comment? Low effort comments, dismissiveness, refusing to engage in good faith even when someone treats him very respectively, and copy-pasting the same responses many times is only one of several signs this is a troll. This behavior breaks rule 4.

No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.

I do not understand how anyone could possibly look at the evidence I provided and say “nah, not a troll”.

For your convenience:

Top 10 duplicate (total 617 exact and 318 fuzzy, 70% or more similar) submissions from UniversalMonk@lemmy.world found.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 24 days ago

How did you generate this report?

pooperNickel@lemm.ee · 24 days ago

It’s a script I wrote. I’m planning to open source it soon. Should I send you a link when it goes up?

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 24 days ago

Yes please!

pooperNickel@lemm.ee · 23 days ago

Here is the tool: https://codeberg.org/p00perNickel/lemmy-user-stats

Let me know if you have any issues with it!

geekwithsoul@lemm.ee · 25 days ago

I want to second this. I understand the mods prefer a case-by-case approach, but I think that leaves a very specific pathway for bad actors to exploit. Monk was posting a purely insane amount of comments along with a very high but not as insane number of posts, and almost all of it was low-value, and often copy-pasted from a previous comment.

Do the mods even have easy access to the kind of data your script was pulling? I think that may be part of the issue is that the mod tools with Lemmy are lacking/limited.

pooperNickel@lemm.ee · 25 days ago

I am not entirely sure what tools they have, but yeah the script was just pulling data from the public api. Anyone can write this script, and I will open source it if folks are interested. It could be good to have a set of tools similar to this one which mods could run with minimal effort.

jordanlund@lemmy.world · edit-2 25 days ago

Mod tools are pretty limited.

We have a queue of reported posts and reported comments, from there it’s a manual lookup of user history in their profile and on the public modlog.

For actions, we can remove comments and posts, lock posts, ban users temporarily or permanently, feature posts in the community, and promote users to mods.

pooperNickel@lemm.ee · 25 days ago

Thanks for that. Kinda what I figured. I may work some more on tools to help. Would you be interested? Specifically in simple scripts you can run after a pretty easy setup and running a single command typically.

jordanlund@lemmy.world · 25 days ago

Anything that helps, sure!

AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today · 25 days ago

That would be awesome of you.

pooperNickel@lemm.ee · 23 days ago

Here is the tool: https://codeberg.org/p00perNickel/lemmy-user-stats

Let me know if you have any issues with it!

Archer@lemmy.world · 25 days ago

He had a standard copypasta for people accusing him of being a troll. If that’s not trolling I don’t know what is

jordanlund@lemmy.world · 25 days ago

I get that, but hear me out… it’s just as likely that they’re an obsessive compulsive, possibly on the autism spectrum, who can’t stand letting someone have the last word.

https://neurodivergentrebel.com/2021/09/15/autism-obsessive-behavior-why-i-cant-always-let-things-go-as-an-autistic-person/

https://www.asd-forum.org.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/28892-arguing-with-other-asd-people-someone-always-has-to-have-the-last-word/

Now, I’m no clinical psychologist, I’m not competent to make that diagnosis, but I’m sure you’ve also seen arguments between two people incapable of letting it go.

odelik@lemmy.today · 25 days ago

Do not treat neuro divgerent people with training wheels.

I’m neuro divgerent and it pisses me off when people treat me differently. Yeah, I’ve got my shit, and I often need things explained to me with clear guidelines, rules, and expectations.

But one thing my neuro divergence doesn’t grant me is the ability to act like a shit stain and get away with it while prodding everybody around me antagonisticly.

rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com · 25 days ago

While I understand your concern because I knew someone who was like that personally, that person’s ability and desire to constantly respond caused them a significant bit of distress, often replying to people with something like, “please stop replying because I feel compelled to say something in response.”

Maybe shutting a user up every now and then would be a net positive.

jordanlund@lemmy.world · 25 days ago

“please stop replying because I feel compelled to say something in response.”

Modding at that point kind of becomes:

I’d rather be on Snoopy’s side than Lucy’s. ;)

rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com · 25 days ago

Mental illness aside - respectfully, if spamming isn’t considered against the rules, I kind of consider that bad moderation.

pooperNickel@lemm.ee · 25 days ago

So if I want to copy paste the same non-response 26 times, I will not get banned for it, as long as I don’t say overtly mean things? I would absolutely assume that would get me perma banned if I kept doing it.

jordanlund@lemmy.world · 25 days ago

As long as it’s not a non-sensical response and seems to fit the comment chain, I don’t see an inherent problem there.

Example:

“Well, we agree to disagree.” full stop. Discussion ended. No, I don’t have an issue with that.

mosiacmango@lemm.ee · edit-2 24 days ago

If the thread is 52 comments and that’s posted 26 times, that is a dead thread. There is an inherent problem with that.

Posting should be an attempt to create discussion. If the poster tries to end discussion in the comments, that’s just making noise. Eventually, a community of just noise will die.