I just got back from drowning my sorrows into a patty melt at a local bar I frequent. I normally go at night, so the daytime servers were new to me. Got a 40ish year-old lady server who was overworked because everywhere is understaffed now. I asked for some tea because I hadn’t had caffeine yet, and she looks at me puzzled and says, “like hot tea?” And I say “Yes! Black please, but green is ok too if you don’t have it.” And she looked at me, still confused, and said, “Well i don’t know what that is, but we have regular hot tea I can bring you with some hot water.” After she left to put in my order, I couldn’t stop thinking about this exchange.
This article gives me the same exact feeling. Whatever is happening that allows adult SERVERS to be unfamiliar with one of the most popular drinks on the planet. Whatever allowed it so so many people didn’t even realize Biden had dropped out…is the reason we lost to trump. It’s the reason Democrat weren’t able to break through on any issue. We were either talking to brick walls, or black holes. It’s no ones fault but that servers that she was unaware of black tea. You can’t force people to be intellectually curious or skeptical or even open minded. And these same people get to vote. And that’s why we can’t have nice things.
You can’t force people to be intellectually curious, but you can absolutely foster it. The hierarchy of needs is probably totally relevant here; if you want people to be personally invested in developing their brains they need to be and feel physically secure. Unfortunately the USA’s ruling class knows they only have money to lose if more people are educated or desire to become more educated so the education system will continue to rot and we won’t get over that hump.
It’s an education system and culture problem. You can’t force a 40-year-old woman to be curious and critical, but you can plant the seed and encourage the growth of those skills and behaviors in children. That confusion at hearing something different followed by the attitude of putting it in a box and dismissing it (“I don’t know what that is, but we have regular hot tea”) comes from a lifetime of being told to accept whatever over simplified answer they are told and be quiet whenever they ask questions.
That’s not the reason we lost. It’s because our party don’t do shit. That’s it. Everyone is afraid of what trump is going to do but what was done to prevent it? Nothing. We have a weak party with weak politicians.
No clue. But maybe try something. Instead Harris just ran on Trump ending democracy and vote for her because Trump is bad. And then everyone acted like he didn’t have a chance at winning (just like they did with Hillary). I saw this coming from a mile away. Glad I voted for de la Cruz this time.
What are you talking about? I was definitely going to vote and there is no way in hell I was going to vote for someone complicit to funding genocide. Everyone that says they are against what Israel is doing and then voting for Harris or trump is complicit too.
Dude Harris lost by so much it would not have made a difference. And did you see what you just wrote? I knew my candidate was going to lose. I knew yours was too. I won’t support genocide. Nazis support genocide.
I deal with adults like this every day at my workplace. Can’t think, can’t reason, can’t troubleshoot, can’t read documentation, can’t even frame their problem correctly- let alone come up with a solution. Its insanity.
I have a coworker who has been with my company as long as I’ve been in this entire career that we are both in. Between the two of us, I am the expert, because if something goes one iota off the rails, she can’t handle/process it. This is a problem because shit goes off the rails ALL THE TIME in our business. How she hasn’t figured out how to handle that in 15 years, I don’t know
It’s possible, though I suspect it’s more a byproduct of rigidity - she’s fine at her job when everything is straightforward and/or predictable, but goes to pieces when choices aren’t binary.
… why would a server at a bar need to know about tea? is it part of required knowledge for her workplace? no, its a BAR. you know about black or green tea, probably because it was a common drink with family and/or friends. if somebody else was raised in a different, tea-free family, and without tea-guzzling friends, at what point would they have been like “woah, i have to look into this whole tea thing” before working at the bar (where tea definitely isnt part of the training).
lets be honest, the reason you know about tea and she doesnt has nothing to do with intellectual curiosity. so take that high horse behind the barn and shoot it in the head, you wont need it anymore.
I just got back from drowning my sorrows into a patty melt at a local bar I frequent. I normally go at night, so the daytime servers were new to me. Got a 40ish year-old lady server who was overworked because everywhere is understaffed now. I asked for some tea because I hadn’t had caffeine yet, and she looks at me puzzled and says, “like hot tea?” And I say “Yes! Black please, but green is ok too if you don’t have it.” And she looked at me, still confused, and said, “Well i don’t know what that is, but we have regular hot tea I can bring you with some hot water.” After she left to put in my order, I couldn’t stop thinking about this exchange.
This article gives me the same exact feeling. Whatever is happening that allows adult SERVERS to be unfamiliar with one of the most popular drinks on the planet. Whatever allowed it so so many people didn’t even realize Biden had dropped out…is the reason we lost to trump. It’s the reason Democrat weren’t able to break through on any issue. We were either talking to brick walls, or black holes. It’s no ones fault but that servers that she was unaware of black tea. You can’t force people to be intellectually curious or skeptical or even open minded. And these same people get to vote. And that’s why we can’t have nice things.
You can’t force people to be intellectually curious, but you can absolutely foster it. The hierarchy of needs is probably totally relevant here; if you want people to be personally invested in developing their brains they need to be and feel physically secure. Unfortunately the USA’s ruling class knows they only have money to lose if more people are educated or desire to become more educated so the education system will continue to rot and we won’t get over that hump.
It’s an education system and culture problem. You can’t force a 40-year-old woman to be curious and critical, but you can plant the seed and encourage the growth of those skills and behaviors in children. That confusion at hearing something different followed by the attitude of putting it in a box and dismissing it (“I don’t know what that is, but we have regular hot tea”) comes from a lifetime of being told to accept whatever over simplified answer they are told and be quiet whenever they ask questions.
That’s not the reason we lost. It’s because our party don’t do shit. That’s it. Everyone is afraid of what trump is going to do but what was done to prevent it? Nothing. We have a weak party with weak politicians.
What would they need to do to prevent it?
No clue. But maybe try something. Instead Harris just ran on Trump ending democracy and vote for her because Trump is bad. And then everyone acted like he didn’t have a chance at winning (just like they did with Hillary). I saw this coming from a mile away. Glad I voted for de la Cruz this time.
So you couldn’t even be bothered to look up Harris’ platform
What are you talking about? I was definitely going to vote and there is no way in hell I was going to vote for someone complicit to funding genocide. Everyone that says they are against what Israel is doing and then voting for Harris or trump is complicit too.
Well congrats on helping Trump get in office to help stop genocide.
Dude Harris lost by so much it would not have made a difference. And did you see what you just wrote? I knew my candidate was going to lose. I knew yours was too. I won’t support genocide. Nazis support genocide.
You did no matter how you voted. That’s the sad reality we find ourselves in.
I deal with adults like this every day at my workplace. Can’t think, can’t reason, can’t troubleshoot, can’t read documentation, can’t even frame their problem correctly- let alone come up with a solution. Its insanity.
I have a coworker who has been with my company as long as I’ve been in this entire career that we are both in. Between the two of us, I am the expert, because if something goes one iota off the rails, she can’t handle/process it. This is a problem because shit goes off the rails ALL THE TIME in our business. How she hasn’t figured out how to handle that in 15 years, I don’t know
Is it potentially learned helplessness, and they are enabled in other aspects of life?
It’s possible, though I suspect it’s more a byproduct of rigidity - she’s fine at her job when everything is straightforward and/or predictable, but goes to pieces when choices aren’t binary.
… why would a server at a bar need to know about tea? is it part of required knowledge for her workplace? no, its a BAR. you know about black or green tea, probably because it was a common drink with family and/or friends. if somebody else was raised in a different, tea-free family, and without tea-guzzling friends, at what point would they have been like “woah, i have to look into this whole tea thing” before working at the bar (where tea definitely isnt part of the training).
lets be honest, the reason you know about tea and she doesnt has nothing to do with intellectual curiosity. so take that high horse behind the barn and shoot it in the head, you wont need it anymore.
If you don’t know what black tea is, you go behind the barn and get shot.
ok ok, i give up. trump won because of public ignorance to tea