Yup. Congrats 15 million Democrats and progressives that didn’t vote, you just gave us the greenlight for Democrats to never run a imperfect Democratic candidate.
And it will have repercussions for decades and decades. Many, even many younger people, will now not see any changes in the overall makeup of SCOTUS in their lifetime.
I’m really getting tired of this narrative. It completely invalidates that +73M people voted for Trump. More than 73 million people thought he was the right choice. It’s less important that Harris got 15 million less votes than Biden and more important that more than 73 million brain dead morons exist in this country and there’s an extremely high chance that at least 25% will procreate and continue our Idiocracy long beyond our lifetimes.
Well too damn bad because it’s true. Those 73 million were always going to vote this way, every Democrat knew that, every progressive knew that. They always vote for a Republican even if that guy is a convicted felon and rapist, we all knew that going in and they did exactly that because scorpions are going to scorpion.
Ever Democrat and progressive knew the stakes, they knew what the opposition was going to do and they didn’t show the fuck up.
Hell no, these fascist condoning, racist condoning jerks get a lot of blame here as well they should.
Your narrative is incorrect though. You can’t just call 1/3 of the country a braindead moron and move on. There are plenty of perfectly intelligent people that voted for trump. Simplifying all of this to ‘well they’re idiots’ doesn’t help anyone find a solution.
There are plenty of perfectly intelligent people that voted for trump.
No, there aren’t. The truly intelligent people who support Donald Trump are in the Machiavellian evil camp. They are the herding dogs that use their understanding of the weaknesses of human psychology to manipulate the rest of the stupid, unwashed masses who blindly follow Donald Trump because of their in-group dynamics.
The intelligent epicenter makes up an extremely small margin of hyper-wealthy (and/or) moral Nihilists who’s goal is to collapse U.S. hegemony and by-proxy Western society so they can economically enslave the remaining remnants of the human race with discretionary economic power.
So, no, it is not “plenty”. It is an incredibly small subset of individuals who actually understand what is going on, and are using it to their direct advantage.
You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into in the first place. If you think you are going to out-logic any of these people into changing their minds you don’t actually understand the way fascist ideology grows & becomes entrenched within a population. Your thought process that you can change their minds by treating them as intelligent members of a well-functioning social order is such okie-doke ass pick-me behavior you should be embarrassed you even attempted to float it. That only serves to further reinforce the legitimacy of their ideas in their own minds. Grow the fuck up.
It’s not 15 million, it’s a few tens of thousands in a handful of swing states. Millions more Harris voters in New England, New York, and California would have had the same result.
Trump is currently winning the popular vote (73m to 69m). A vast majority of total votes are counted so it won’t go up more than another million or so from there.
Trump lost the popular vote in 2020, 81 million to 74 million.
Trump’s margin in swing states is currently well over 100,000.
Trump’s total vote count basically didn’t change at all, but there are currently 12 MILLION people who just didn’t show up to vote for democrats. Sure the electoral college was “decided” by a few hundred thousand, but this was a collosal collapse of democrat voter turnout nationwide.
What they’re saying is that 12 million more votes in States where Democrats already won wouldn’t have changed a thing, it’s the Democrats that didn’t show up in swing States that are to blame.
It’s not that it would have changed anything, it’s about the message it sends regarding how voters really felt about the Democrats and the election in general. Sure it may have been “decided” by a few ten thousands in a few swing states but there was a huge nationwide collapse of support.
I think people are pissed that she lost the popular vote because it shows the extent of her loss and how much people didn’t care in general, but the truth is she only needed the popular vote in some specific states in order to win and that’s much less than the 12m votes people keep talking about.
Yup. Congrats 15 million Democrats and progressives that didn’t vote, you just gave us the greenlight for Democrats to never run a imperfect Democratic candidate.
Congrats! You did it!
And it will have repercussions for decades and decades. Many, even many younger people, will now not see any changes in the overall makeup of SCOTUS in their lifetime.
I’m really getting tired of this narrative. It completely invalidates that +73M people voted for Trump. More than 73 million people thought he was the right choice. It’s less important that Harris got 15 million less votes than Biden and more important that more than 73 million brain dead morons exist in this country and there’s an extremely high chance that at least 25% will procreate and continue our Idiocracy long beyond our lifetimes.
Well too damn bad because it’s true. Those 73 million were always going to vote this way, every Democrat knew that, every progressive knew that. They always vote for a Republican even if that guy is a convicted felon and rapist, we all knew that going in and they did exactly that because scorpions are going to scorpion.
Ever Democrat and progressive knew the stakes, they knew what the opposition was going to do and they didn’t show the fuck up.
Hell no, these fascist condoning, racist condoning jerks get a lot of blame here as well they should.
Your narrative is incorrect though. You can’t just call 1/3 of the country a braindead moron and move on. There are plenty of perfectly intelligent people that voted for trump. Simplifying all of this to ‘well they’re idiots’ doesn’t help anyone find a solution.
No, there aren’t. The truly intelligent people who support Donald Trump are in the Machiavellian evil camp. They are the herding dogs that use their understanding of the weaknesses of human psychology to manipulate the rest of the stupid, unwashed masses who blindly follow Donald Trump because of their in-group dynamics.
The intelligent epicenter makes up an extremely small margin of hyper-wealthy (and/or) moral Nihilists who’s goal is to collapse U.S. hegemony and by-proxy Western society so they can economically enslave the remaining remnants of the human race with discretionary economic power.
So, no, it is not “plenty”. It is an incredibly small subset of individuals who actually understand what is going on, and are using it to their direct advantage.
Hey go ahead and keep going with that narrative. It won’t help anyone.
The point isn’t to help anyone, it’s to make the fascist idiots feel bad for being fascist idiots
If they don’t like it they can sit and spin
That won’t work though… If you’re right then nobody will feel bad for anything because they’re too dumb to realize.
This approach will never work.
NO APPROACH IS GOING TO WORK.
You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into in the first place. If you think you are going to out-logic any of these people into changing their minds you don’t actually understand the way fascist ideology grows & becomes entrenched within a population. Your thought process that you can change their minds by treating them as intelligent members of a well-functioning social order is such okie-doke ass pick-me behavior you should be embarrassed you even attempted to float it. That only serves to further reinforce the legitimacy of their ideas in their own minds. Grow the fuck up.
You’re not giving any sort of solution. All you’re doing is complaining.
It’s not 15 million, it’s a few tens of thousands in a handful of swing states. Millions more Harris voters in New England, New York, and California would have had the same result.
Yes it is. Don’t misconstrue the results.
Trump is currently winning the popular vote (73m to 69m). A vast majority of total votes are counted so it won’t go up more than another million or so from there.
Trump lost the popular vote in 2020, 81 million to 74 million.
Trump’s margin in swing states is currently well over 100,000.
Trump’s total vote count basically didn’t change at all, but there are currently 12 MILLION people who just didn’t show up to vote for democrats. Sure the electoral college was “decided” by a few hundred thousand, but this was a collosal collapse of democrat voter turnout nationwide.
What they’re saying is that 12 million more votes in States where Democrats already won wouldn’t have changed a thing, it’s the Democrats that didn’t show up in swing States that are to blame.
It’s not that it would have changed anything, it’s about the message it sends regarding how voters really felt about the Democrats and the election in general. Sure it may have been “decided” by a few ten thousands in a few swing states but there was a huge nationwide collapse of support.
It would have won the popular vote, which many on Lemmy are far more concerned about than who wins or loses overall.
I think people are pissed that she lost the popular vote because it shows the extent of her loss and how much people didn’t care in general, but the truth is she only needed the popular vote in some specific states in order to win and that’s much less than the 12m votes people keep talking about.
…I think the people who voted for Trump probably played the bigger part though.
not true. trump’s 2020 numbers were largely the same as his 2024 numbers.
harris got 14,000,000 less votes than biden did in 2020.