I think I’m noticing a pattern where we tend to have pretty different interests, where you play games for the same reason I avoid them :P This is a good thing especially since you and I are basically the only posters—so we have more likes and dislikes represented than just that of the mod (me). I do try to post all otome regardless of my personal enjoyment, but I’m way more likely to know of ones I would enjoy, so…
I’m not playing this game because the rhythm game would drive me nuts (ironically I’m a musician). And although I’m on board with crossdressing in real life, the “MC pretends to be a guy” makes me instantly reject the game. My guess is because I usually try to self-insert to some degree and I feel my gender very strongly—being perceived as a dude is very much not something I am comfortable with, except online when you cannot see the human face, only the text. Or because if MC does not crossdress as a hobby of hers, as an active choice because she enjoys it, it usually promises some “girls are not allowed here” plot that has something to do with sexism and I don’t want that to be a plot element at all, even if the story is about overcoming sexism and breaking barriers. I’d probably be fine playing a crossdressing MC if it was only from a place of her personally enjoying it, and not from a place of having to do it to overcome some gender restriction.
It is a shame because I’m a huge theatre kid at heart. I am literally typing this to you the day after closing night of a play I was in. Drama school and the plot focusing on improving as an actor sounds very appealing to me.
So that means that if you find a game you don’t like, you should send it my way…? 😆
I personally just really like if the protagonist’s gender doesn’t really matter and they’re treated as an equal. I’ve stopped playing otome games just because I couldn’t deal with how the LIs tended to treat the protag. I also learned that I absolutely despise games where the MC is a complete blank-slate for self-insertion purposes (looking at you, Amnesia). Otomes don’t seem to have fleshed-out MCs that often, so I often get my fix from BL games instead :/
In the case of Jack Jeanne, I’m also ok with the cross-dressing, since the setting is very clearly inspired by the Takarazuka Revue, an all-female musical theatre troupe. (I had actually played a Yuri-VN that was heavily inspired by Takarazuka before.) The protagonist plays both female and male roles and really grows through that, so I think she doesn’t really care about being perceived as a girl or not, I think.
At no point, female roles are treated as less desirable than male roles, and actors who can convincingly play a female role enjoy lots of admiration from their peers, which I find pretty neat. The plot hasn’t really addressed how the MC feels about privately cross-dressing though 🤔 It doesn’t get brought up unless there’s a situation where she might get found out.
I can totally understand if the cross-dressing is a dealbreaker for you, though^^
I have found some OELVN otome that have MC actually treated decently! I also prefer people to be treated equally regardless of gender both in real life and in-game.
I actually often struggle to insert on blank slates because they act wildly different from me. Heroines with personality and a similar trait to one of mine are easier to insert on. I wonder if anyone else feels the same way about self-inserting or if blank slates are successful self-inserts for most people and I just have a really weird personality.
Heard of the Takarazuka Revue before, did not know it was all female. Maybe I should check it out. Especially since my favorite type of theatre is musical theatre!
I think I’m noticing a pattern where we tend to have pretty different interests, where you play games for the same reason I avoid them :P This is a good thing especially since you and I are basically the only posters—so we have more likes and dislikes represented than just that of the mod (me). I do try to post all otome regardless of my personal enjoyment, but I’m way more likely to know of ones I would enjoy, so…
I’m not playing this game because the rhythm game would drive me nuts (ironically I’m a musician). And although I’m on board with crossdressing in real life, the “MC pretends to be a guy” makes me instantly reject the game. My guess is because I usually try to self-insert to some degree and I feel my gender very strongly—being perceived as a dude is very much not something I am comfortable with, except online when you cannot see the human face, only the text. Or because if MC does not crossdress as a hobby of hers, as an active choice because she enjoys it, it usually promises some “girls are not allowed here” plot that has something to do with sexism and I don’t want that to be a plot element at all, even if the story is about overcoming sexism and breaking barriers. I’d probably be fine playing a crossdressing MC if it was only from a place of her personally enjoying it, and not from a place of having to do it to overcome some gender restriction.
It is a shame because I’m a huge theatre kid at heart. I am literally typing this to you the day after closing night of a play I was in. Drama school and the plot focusing on improving as an actor sounds very appealing to me.
So that means that if you find a game you don’t like, you should send it my way…? 😆
I personally just really like if the protagonist’s gender doesn’t really matter and they’re treated as an equal. I’ve stopped playing otome games just because I couldn’t deal with how the LIs tended to treat the protag. I also learned that I absolutely despise games where the MC is a complete blank-slate for self-insertion purposes (looking at you, Amnesia). Otomes don’t seem to have fleshed-out MCs that often, so I often get my fix from BL games instead :/
In the case of Jack Jeanne, I’m also ok with the cross-dressing, since the setting is very clearly inspired by the Takarazuka Revue, an all-female musical theatre troupe. (I had actually played a Yuri-VN that was heavily inspired by Takarazuka before.) The protagonist plays both female and male roles and really grows through that, so I think she doesn’t really care about being perceived as a girl or not, I think.
At no point, female roles are treated as less desirable than male roles, and actors who can convincingly play a female role enjoy lots of admiration from their peers, which I find pretty neat. The plot hasn’t really addressed how the MC feels about privately cross-dressing though 🤔 It doesn’t get brought up unless there’s a situation where she might get found out.
I can totally understand if the cross-dressing is a dealbreaker for you, though^^
I have found some OELVN otome that have MC actually treated decently! I also prefer people to be treated equally regardless of gender both in real life and in-game.
I actually often struggle to insert on blank slates because they act wildly different from me. Heroines with personality and a similar trait to one of mine are easier to insert on. I wonder if anyone else feels the same way about self-inserting or if blank slates are successful self-inserts for most people and I just have a really weird personality.
Heard of the Takarazuka Revue before, did not know it was all female. Maybe I should check it out. Especially since my favorite type of theatre is musical theatre!