What is Defederation?
Defederation means we have disconnected our instance from another, and users from our instance will no longer be able to see anything (communities, posts or comments) coming from it, and their users won’t be able to see anything coming from ours.
What will get an Instance Defederated?
Our goal is to avoid defederation, but we will do so under the following circumstances:
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The instance spreads overwhelming amounts of drama, hate or negativity.
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The instance is mostly made up bots, and or promotes spam.
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The instance allows the harassment or doxxing of others.
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The instance knowingly hosts CSAM or other illegal content.
Has FMHY Defederated Instances?
Only two, both for breaking the 1st rule above:
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exploding-heads
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lemmygrad
Things to Note:
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There are circumstances where we may block a specific community within an instance, rather than blocking the entire instance itself, but this is very uncommon.
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Remember that if there’s a community you don’t like, you can block it entirely in settings.
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Keep in mind that our goal is to keep this community safe, so if you see something that breaks our rules please don’t hesitate to report it.
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If its something urgent, you can always contact us easily via Divolt 💬. Its connected to our discord, so there are mods online 24/7.
The hysterics over the as yet purely hypothetical prospect of Facebook/Threads being on the fediverse, along with some worrying signs of censorship, have caused me to to flee lemmy.world. Here’s hoping FMHY will be a better fit for me.
Threads already violates rules 1 and 3, hosting people who escalated their harrassment into real life multiple times already, so I hope the decision to block them (should they ever choose to federate) is a no-brainer to FMHY admins.
How is threads more overwhelmingly negative or tolerant of doxxing than other major platforms? Like what is the basis for your comment?
Threads is owned by Meta, which:
- Has profited from a genocide in Kenya: https://gizmodo.com/facebook-kenya-pro-genocide-ads-hate-speech-suspension-1849348778
- Has profited from a genocide in Myanmar: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
- Hosts Libs of Tiktok, who, among other things, led a harrasment campaign on children’s hospitals, based on a completely made up rumour of said hospitals providing genital surgery for minors.
- Hosts Moms for Liberty, which is a neo-nazi organization that has quoted Hitler (with attribution) in their promotional material, and made fun of a moment of silence for a Holocaust memorial.
If your point is that Meta is no worse than Twitter or whatever other corporate media, then whatever, I’m not really interested in discussions about whether it’s better to come down with plague or leprosy. They all suck.
If your point is that Threads itself isn’t technically compilicit in anything yet after being up for 10 days, then I think that’s pretty naive.
You cited rule 1, which is
The instance spreads overwhelming amounts of drama, hate or negativity.
And rule 3
The instance allows the harassment or doxxing of others.
So the question is whether the fediverse instance Threads has done the bad actions.
You are arguing for a preemptive defederation based on the actions of the corporate parent having nothing to do with content on the instance in question.
Since libsoftiktok is on Twitter not Facebook, it seems you want to be defederated from Threads based on the actions of not just Meta, but also Musk’s Twitter.
I mean it’s an argument, and many agree with it. Many instances have already defederated threads.net. but it’s certainly not in the rules cited in this post.
Libs of Tiktok was on Instagram and already is on Threads, along with the rest of the usual suspects: https://kolektiva.social/@ophiocephalic/110667668701596654 They have already started their shtick of quoting random people to direct their followers to harrass the target.
Wait. Threads requires an instagram account. How can libsoftiktok be on threads if she is permabanned from IG.
Are you even sure this is true or is this just a rumor that you’re repeating?
Edit: there does appear to be an account called libsoftiktokofficial. Not sure whether it’s really Chaya but it has plenty of anti-trans propaganda
Libsoftiktok started on Twitter. And while she did have an instagram account, it was banned from both instagram and Facebook, while the Twitter account had its shadowban lifted after Musk took over.
Given that Meta is presenting Threads as Twitter, but “sanely run”, and that libsoftiktok has already been permabanned twice, it seems likely that she will also be banned from Threads. Certainly this is a weird point to hang your case for defederating Threads on.
I would have preferred to have a no-defederation policy (except for maybe threads due to EEE fears), but as long as it is not swung around constantly, I am okay with it.
The two that are blocked are political circlejerks that I personally dislike anyways. I am hopeful there is not more.
Oh, thank god for defederating exploding-heads.
Censorship is cool again 1 month after reddit fucked up
Defederating from people who support bombing innocent people is not censorship 🤦
In the same way it’s ok to punch nazis.