Probably the people—accurately—pointing out that Mozilla has also adopted Manifest V3 along with Google. Google is doing it to curtail (“kill”) ad blockers. Mozilla is also now in the advertising game, and secretly began a telemetry program which is opt-out only. And, given how we shouldn’t trust orgs with financial motive, very well could opt you back in with future updates exactly as Microsoft does.
Plus, their current CEO has a history, and Mozilla as a whole faces dicey times ahead if their Daddy Google is forced to stop buying exclusivity deals by the U.S. government.
Man I was gonna say. As soon as noticed it I told everyone to switch to at least Waterfox if they are getting new devices or need recommendations.
I’m personally gonna wait for the Mullvad Browser to get tested some more because that one is said to be much better when it comes to privacy than a lot of others.
I use Vivaldi rn because of the customization option and the privacy is aight but obv not more than can be expected from chromium based browsers.
Also another hint to take your hands off opera or even worse, opera gx if you have that. Not worth it. Data collectors, not very fast anymore and customization I would always recommend Vivaldi or at least another base chromium variant.
One of the most controversial changes of Chrome’s MV3 approach is the removal of blocking WebRequest, which provides a level of power and flexibility that is critical to enabling advanced privacy and content blocking features. Unfortunately, that power has also been used to harm users in a variety of ways. Chrome’s solution in MV3 was to define a more narrowly scoped API (declarativeNetRequest) as a replacement. However, this will limit the capabilities of certain types of privacy extensions without adequate replacement.
Mozilla will maintain support for blocking WebRequest in MV3. To maximize compatibility with other browsers, we will also ship support for declarativeNetRequest. We will continue to work with content blockers and other key consumers of this API to identify current and future alternatives where appropriate. Content blocking is one of the most important use cases for extensions, and we are committed to ensuring that Firefox users have access to the best privacy tools available.
They aren’t killing Mv2 but they implemented there own ad system in Firefox that was silently turned on. That is on top of all the other anti privacy stuff like telemetry, Firefox suggest and Pocket.
They are only good for privacy when compared to Chrome. Compared to Librewolf and similar they are abysmal
All that is irrelevant to what I just said, and what you originally said, but for the record, I’m not mad about it. Firefox is implementing ads in a privacy-friendly way and, now that they’re basically the only browser engine in the world that isn’t Chromium and their Google money is drying up, they’re going to have to earn revenue somehow. No way in hell they’re going to live off donations, and if they start charging for the browser, their entire userbase – and with it their ability to influence W3C standards – will disappear faster than you can blink. If they do that by selling privacy respecting ads, I’m all for it.
Did Mozilla signal any intention to phase out V2 though? It makes sense for them to support both, as a lot of extensions (that don’t rely on V2 features that are missing from V3) are going to be built for V3 now and if Mozilla wants to keep their extension store full. If they didn’t offer both versions, extensions developers might disregard Firefox as a platform because of its low usage share numbers if they had to maintain two different architectures.
Firefox market share is growing. I expect any content blocker worth its salt will support Mv2 and potentially Mv2 only like Ublock Origin is considering.
Right side is obvious, but what is that about Mozilla?
Probably the people—accurately—pointing out that Mozilla has also adopted Manifest V3 along with Google. Google is doing it to curtail (“kill”) ad blockers. Mozilla is also now in the advertising game, and secretly began a telemetry program which is opt-out only. And, given how we shouldn’t trust orgs with financial motive, very well could opt you back in with future updates exactly as Microsoft does.
Plus, their current CEO has a history, and Mozilla as a whole faces dicey times ahead if their Daddy Google is forced to stop buying exclusivity deals by the U.S. government.
So take your pick I guess.
Mozilla also introduced opt-out tracking in their browser. Get LibreWolf folks…
Man I was gonna say. As soon as noticed it I told everyone to switch to at least Waterfox if they are getting new devices or need recommendations.
I’m personally gonna wait for the Mullvad Browser to get tested some more because that one is said to be much better when it comes to privacy than a lot of others.
I use Vivaldi rn because of the customization option and the privacy is aight but obv not more than can be expected from chromium based browsers.
Also another hint to take your hands off opera or even worse, opera gx if you have that. Not worth it. Data collectors, not very fast anymore and customization I would always recommend Vivaldi or at least another base chromium variant.
Vivaldi is mostly proprietary so I wouldn’t trust it
Per Mozilla’s blog post about adopting Manifest V3, they are, unlike Chrome, not removing the API that lets uBlock Origin work:
Let’s not spread half truths please.
They aren’t killing Mv2 but they implemented there own ad system in Firefox that was silently turned on. That is on top of all the other anti privacy stuff like telemetry, Firefox suggest and Pocket.
They are only good for privacy when compared to Chrome. Compared to Librewolf and similar they are abysmal
Librewolf is firefox, just modified
True but it rips out the junk and applies the hardening from Tor
All that is irrelevant to what I just said, and what you originally said, but for the record, I’m not mad about it. Firefox is implementing ads in a privacy-friendly way and, now that they’re basically the only browser engine in the world that isn’t Chromium and their Google money is drying up, they’re going to have to earn revenue somehow. No way in hell they’re going to live off donations, and if they start charging for the browser, their entire userbase – and with it their ability to influence W3C standards – will disappear faster than you can blink. If they do that by selling privacy respecting ads, I’m all for it.
The problem is that it is opt out with no warning popup.
So they are implementing Manifest v3 but only the parts worth implementing. Thank you Mozzilla 🙏
Did Mozilla signal any intention to phase out V2 though? It makes sense for them to support both, as a lot of extensions (that don’t rely on V2 features that are missing from V3) are going to be built for V3 now and if Mozilla wants to keep their extension store full. If they didn’t offer both versions, extensions developers might disregard Firefox as a platform because of its low usage share numbers if they had to maintain two different architectures.
They said they would do both
Firefox market share is growing. I expect any content blocker worth its salt will support Mv2 and potentially Mv2 only like Ublock Origin is considering.
Sigh. Fine I’ll install LibreWold
*librewolf
LibenVolf