Hm yeah, competing with such loss leader printers would be difficult. But how come I’ve never heard of anyone making things such as bootleg printer ink? Or does the police barge into the doors of anyone who tries?
Can confirm that bootleg printer ink is a thing. It used to be all I used. While sites dedicated to it off Amazon doesn’t cut it.
But as someone else pointed out, manufacturers have been adding “DRM” to cartridges in more recent years. Even in older printers, I will get complaints doubting the authenticity of the cartridges I was putting in.
Can confirm that bootleg printer ink is a thing. It used to be all I used. While sites dedicated to it off Amazon doesn’t cut it.
But as someone else pointed out, manufacturers have been adding “DRM” to cartridges in more recent years. Even in older printers, I will get complaints doubting the authenticity of the cartridges I was putting in.
Can confirm that bootleg printer ink is a thing. It used to be all I used. While sites dedicated to it off Amazon doesn’t cut it.
But as someone else pointed out, manufacturers have been adding “DRM” to cartridges in more recent years. Even in older printers, I will get complaints doubting the authenticity of the cartridges I was putting in.
The thing about printers, is that unlike most other common modern computer peripherals, they’re mechanically complex, and with precise tolerances at that, given that they have to be able to feed paper through the system with pure friction.
A daisy wheel or other character-based impact printer could probably be produced in a few months’ steady work by a sufficiently stubborn and enthusiastic DIY type, but almost no one would buy or build one because it’s a step backward in terms of output results—text output in the font face and point size on the daisy wheel only. There might be a niche for them as ruggedized, easy-to-repair printers in developing countries or other awkward situations.
A laser printer would probably take a couple of years of development to reach reasonable feature parity with current closed-source offerings, and then you’d have to set up a production line. The problem there is likely to be funding: you’re going to have a hard time finding an investor to dump money into creating something that already exists, and it’s difficult to spin “open hardware” as a selling point to businessmen. So you’d need to be independently wealthy, or convince someone who is to back the project.
Inkjets? Not a prayer, I don’t think. Too much expensive-to-produce microminiaturized equipment involved in the ink-spraying. It’s also the newest of the technologies, so the most likely to have a patent minefield lying in wait for the unwary. And existing ones are usually sold below cost, so it would be difficult for such a project to break even.
The problem there is likely to be funding: you’re going to have a hard time finding an investor to dump money into creating something that already exists, and it’s difficult to spin “open hardware” as a selling point to businessmen.
I think it would be really cool if someone came up with an open source full design. An example where this actually happened is those cheap transistor testers you can find all over eBay and Amazon. I’d be willing to be that “someone” someday, but my current focus is on getting my first job so I can’t do it right now.
What do you think hinders the open source community to develop a printer.
that there’s already an established oligopoly that sells their machines at a loss
Hm yeah, competing with such loss leader printers would be difficult. But how come I’ve never heard of anyone making things such as bootleg printer ink? Or does the police barge into the doors of anyone who tries?
there is bootleg printer ink, and the OEMs hate it so they put chips and sensors to only make printers take “genuine” ink
You can find plenty of bootleg printer ink around, you just have to ensure you have a printer that isn’t locked to the manufacturers ink.
Can confirm that bootleg printer ink is a thing. It used to be all I used. While sites dedicated to it off Amazon doesn’t cut it.
But as someone else pointed out, manufacturers have been adding “DRM” to cartridges in more recent years. Even in older printers, I will get complaints doubting the authenticity of the cartridges I was putting in.
Can confirm that bootleg printer ink is a thing. It used to be all I used. While sites dedicated to it off Amazon doesn’t cut it.
But as someone else pointed out, manufacturers have been adding “DRM” to cartridges in more recent years. Even in older printers, I will get complaints doubting the authenticity of the cartridges I was putting in.
Can confirm that bootleg printer ink is a thing. It used to be all I used. While sites dedicated to it off Amazon doesn’t cut it.
But as someone else pointed out, manufacturers have been adding “DRM” to cartridges in more recent years. Even in older printers, I will get complaints doubting the authenticity of the cartridges I was putting in.
Please forgive the multiple posts. My UI is glitchy af and reports errors when there were none.
The thing about printers, is that unlike most other common modern computer peripherals, they’re mechanically complex, and with precise tolerances at that, given that they have to be able to feed paper through the system with pure friction.
A daisy wheel or other character-based impact printer could probably be produced in a few months’ steady work by a sufficiently stubborn and enthusiastic DIY type, but almost no one would buy or build one because it’s a step backward in terms of output results—text output in the font face and point size on the daisy wheel only. There might be a niche for them as ruggedized, easy-to-repair printers in developing countries or other awkward situations.
A laser printer would probably take a couple of years of development to reach reasonable feature parity with current closed-source offerings, and then you’d have to set up a production line. The problem there is likely to be funding: you’re going to have a hard time finding an investor to dump money into creating something that already exists, and it’s difficult to spin “open hardware” as a selling point to businessmen. So you’d need to be independently wealthy, or convince someone who is to back the project.
Inkjets? Not a prayer, I don’t think. Too much expensive-to-produce microminiaturized equipment involved in the ink-spraying. It’s also the newest of the technologies, so the most likely to have a patent minefield lying in wait for the unwary. And existing ones are usually sold below cost, so it would be difficult for such a project to break even.
I think it would be really cool if someone came up with an open source full design. An example where this actually happened is those cheap transistor testers you can find all over eBay and Amazon. I’d be willing to be that “someone” someday, but my current focus is on getting my first job so I can’t do it right now.