• simple@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Isn’t Black Swan just Perfect Blue for people who never watch anime?

    Edit: For the people that don’t know

    Image comparing Black Swan to Perfect Blue

    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Excuse me, who are you?

      Side note: Black Swan’s director was accused of plagiarizing Perfect Blue, which is honestly really obvious, and he denied it left and right. But Satoshi Kon said he and the director for Black Swan met in 2001. So take from that what you will.

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      7 months ago

      Black Swan is about a ballet dancer who, driven by the demand to perfectly play the lead role in Tchaikovsky’s Swan Lake, descends into madness.

      It’s with Natalie Portman and a truly amazing movie. I absolutely recommend watching it, even when you’re not into ballet.

      Edit: To be honest just watch Joker too. It tells the story of Joker becoming the Joker and Joaquin Phoenix did an amazing job playing the role. It’s completely different from any DC / Batman movies and probably not what you’d expect from a movie that plays in this universe.

      Both movies are great psychothrillers.

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        7 months ago

        Joker is great because it’s using a well known character, but it could be literally anyone. From what I remember, the movie essentially had nothing to do with what Joker will become besides showing how it becomes that. There’s no supernatural things. No powers or special abilities. He’s just a guy. A guy who ends up being a character we all know, but he isn’t yet.

        It’s using the marketing appeal and budget that DC stuff automatically gets, but it’s using it to tell a story that is almost outside of it.

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    7 months ago

    Hollywood just recycles plots. Nothing original. You showed me how this film was terrible. I had no idea.

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      7 months ago

      The phrase “there is nothing new under the sun” doesn’t mean there’s no originality left in the world. It means all stories resonate because of the human condition. Remixing the tropes is entirely the point of storytelling. The tropes are the substrate and how our brain likes patterns, not the patterns themselves. Enjoy what you enjoy and not what you’re told.

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        7 months ago

        It’s from a passage in the bible (Ecclesiastes 1:9) and the passage is a rant about the futility of life. The phrase, in Latin, is “nihil sub sole novum”, so I’m pretty sure that’s where the word nihilism comes from.

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          7 months ago

          That’s both fascinating, sad, and ironic etymology. My point still stands, I just now realize it’s also just a reframing against the original edge lord trend. There really isn’t anything new under the sun haha.

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      7 months ago

      It’s so entertaining as a young man, highly recommended.