Quote from the article: “The inclusion of intrusive DRM softwares [sic] like Denuvo is a choice that yields an unfair punishment on the consumer,” Running With Scissors says. “Respect the consumer, make a game they want to play, and you will never feel the need to fight piracy. The gaming industry deserves a better future, fight for that.”

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    Running With Scissors is a “legendary” developer?

    Postal was a violent mess that didn’t age well.

    Postal 2 was a buggy mess that also didn’t age well.

    After that, it was just legitimately bad games on top of the humor not aging well. (They literally don’t even acknowledge Postal 3)

    Seriously, who the fuck would label them legendary? They’ve been a broken mess for over a decade.

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    Denuvo is the apex of a long history of bad choices.

    Maybe actually sell us the games in a way we really own it, without any sort of online activation/account/telemetry/data-gathering like when we could buy a disc and just use it, and it should all be ok.

    I feel like a dinosaur every-time I think this nowadays, but what is so problematic with the “own as in physically own” that is so hard to implement? If they want to provide a service, sell a service.

    In the past I used pirate versions of games I bought just to be able to play them offline, or because I did not agree with the terms of service. It is so much for our info, it goes beyond just knowing you are the real owner of the software copy: it comes to the point where it looks like it’s to guarantee we are not its’ owner.

    Now some DRMs even destroy gaming performance and its just faster to use 'ked versions. I hope it changes somehow.

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      Is it really possible to own them properly? If in almost all cases we lack the source code and there are even proprietary requirements for both software and hardware, what chance do they have of working halfway well in a few decades?

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        And with stuff like SecuRom, even owning a legit physical copy of the game does not help you when the service vanishes

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    Release a DEMO, like the old days. So we can DECIDE FOR OURSELVES!!

    Its a simple fucking technique. We only pirate to try, if its shit - then fuck you. If its good - then you have a purchase.

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      There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me.

      The sign was painted, said ‘Private Property.’

      But on the backside, it didn’t say nothing.

      This land was made for you and me.

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        And the sign said anybody caught trespassing
        Would be shot on sight.
        So I jumped over the fence and I yelled at the house,
        “Hey, what gives you the right
        To put up a fence to keep me out
        Or to keep mother nature in?”
        If God was here he’d tell you to your face
        “Man, you’re some kind of sinner!”

  • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    “Postal” is such a steaming pile of edgelord shit that even Civvie11 doing videos on the franchise doesn’t make it any more bearable for me.

    Critical support for this developer’s message here, that said.

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      I appreciate Postal 2 because the premise is kinda funny. It’s deliberately designed so you can beat it without doing any violence at all. You’re given tasks like get milk, pick up your paycheck, etc. And it involves standing in lines or people berating you. You’re stuck doing tedious annoying repetitive tasks, or you can get a flamethrower. I think standing in line to get Gary Coleman’s autograph takes 90 minutes if you do it normally.

      Otherwise it’s very silly early 2000s edgy white guy dudebro humor

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        You’re stuck doing tedious annoying repetitive tasks, or you can get a flamethrower.

        That premise, while cute, hasn’t aged well for me. The ever-rising number of chanlords shooting up their schools (and elder chanlords murder-suiciding their own families) because no one would blow them behind the bleachers (or because the wife left him or the kids won’t call anymore) sours the premise of “wouldn’t it be funny to murder everyone that mildly annoyed you” white guy dudebro humor for me long ago.

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            “Yo its a video game”

            Yeah, and that changes nothing about why I don’t like it. You’re giving a lazy thought terminating cliche here.

            EDIT: Christ, you activated a long dormant alt account just to stan for your edgy video game? That’s just sad.

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              This is my only lemmy account and I made it before reddit killed 3rd party apps as I quit going on there. Going through my post history to try and judge me is something weird to do though

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                Going through my post history to try and judge me is something weird to do though

                Rising from dormancy while otherwise doing nothing with that account, just to announce how mad you are that your edgy game wasn’t to my liking is weirder to me.

                “Yo its just an opinion”

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    Crackers: We don’t do it for the piracy, we just like the challenge.

    Denuvo: Try this one then.

    Crackers: Too hard bro, at least give us a chance!

    I acknowledge that this isn’t going to be a popular opinion in a piracy sub, but the main reason people hate Denuvo is that it works.

    It’s basically killed the entire game hacking scene, because by the time they break it, nobody is interested in the game any more. There’s like one person left that can do it, and they’re more than a little bit odd.

    It may be “anti-consumer”, but you know what was worse? All the other shit they tried on PC. Always online bullshit. Single player games that you couldn’t save any more if your connection wobbled. Actual rootkits.

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      Death to the concept of intellectual property and all but I’ve never actually felt Denuvo making problems for me when I played a game using it, you’re right it seems to be working as advertised.

      I’m still hoping someone to crack it in a more reliable and fast manner, fuck large gamedev companies and their profit margins.

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      People hate Denuvo because it requires a regular connection to the Internet and has a big impact on the performance of games.

      I’m not buying these games not because I can’t pirate games with Denuvo (I don’t really pirate games at all anymore) but because they tend to run like shit.

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    It is bad for the consumer… but the alternative is instant cracks, as seen with a lot of games on r/Crackwatch that don’t have the DRM.

    Denuvo is the first software in a long time that has been able to successfully stop the supposedly inevitable march to cracking. It’s a miracle that more AAA devs don’t use it, since it works so well. (EMPRESS aside)

    You can hate me all you want for saying this, but the war against piracy, for the most part, has been won.

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    I think the best way is to just have basic piracy detection, if someone trips it, then have a message that you can get past appearing guilt tripping them for it lmao