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Illustration of overlapping browser windows with Ecosia’s logo, a tree graphic, Firefox’s logo, and the text “Together for a better web,” alongside a search bar with a green cursor.
Your tech choices matter more than ever. That’s why at Mozilla, we believe in empowering users to make informed decisions that align with their values. In that spirit, we’re excited to announce our partnership with Ecosia, a search engine that prioritizes sustainability, and social impact.
Did you know you could choose the search engine of your choice right from your Firefox URL bar? Whether you prioritize privacy, climate protection, or simply want a search experience tailored to your preferences, we’ve got you covered.
Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns. Every search made through the search engine contributes to tree-planting projects worldwide, helping to combat deforestation and regenerate the planet. Ecosia planted over 215 million trees, across the planet biodiversity hotspots, making a tangible difference in the fight against climate change. Just like Mozilla, they are committed to creating a better internet, and world, for everyone.
Together, Mozilla, Firefox and Ecosia are contributing to a web that is more open and inclusive, but above all — one where you can make an informed choice about what tech you use and why. Your tech choices make a difference.
As Firefox and Mozilla continue to champion user empowerment and innovation, we invite you to join us in shaping a web that makes the world better. Together, let’s make a positive impact — one search at a time.
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So… what does this partnership actually mean? Will Ecosia be the default search engine once the deal with Google ends?
Mozilla is on a great tear. Layoffs, pointless rebrand, and now a shit privacy greenwashing search engine partnership. I’m so excited for the future of Firefox.
Which pointless rebrand? I actually like “moz://a”.
Yea, but they changed to a weird flag thing (?) and a boring font logo:
At least they got this guy:
Oh well, at least the error animals are foxes and not a really weirdly drawn dinosaur
Aren’t we all?! /s
Indeed.
I’m waiting for Ladybug
I’m waiting for Netscape
here ya go: https://github.com/wicknix/brass-monkey
Firefox WAS Netscape. Netscape was open sourced, rewritten, and released as Firebird (in reference to a phoenix’s rise from Netscape’s ashes). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application_Suite
I’ve been following Ladybird as well, and hope it comes to fruition. Without it we’re kinda fucked.
I think there is suppose to be a an alpha coming this summer.
Whether you prioritize privacy*, climate protection, or simply want a search experience tailored to your preferences, we’ve got you covered.
Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns…
Together, Mozilla, Firefox and Ecosia are contributing to a web that is more open and inclusive, but above all — one where you can make an informed choice about what tech you use and why. Your tech choices make a difference.
Someone should tell Mozilla about the AI-sized environmental concern in their browser?
* ETA: Ecosia doesn’t mention privacy as a feature anywhere on its homepage. (I’m not counting the link to its unimpressive privacy policy.) They call themselves “Google, but greener”, and I believe them.
In that sentence, they’re not referring to Ecosia specifically. Rather, they’re implying that you can choose a search engine which aligns to that value. A little weird to include it with no examples, in a post specifically about Ecosia, but I believe that’s the intent.
To wit, the very next sentence sure does seem to say that Ecosia is private.
Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns.
Someone should tell Mozilla about the AI-sized environmental concern in their browser?
It’s called offset /s
Oh great, shitty bing search results with tree NFTs.
oh no, don’t take away Google results that fill the entire screen with ads and irrelevant bullshit that relies my stolen data before my actual search terms!
Ecosia being any better in this regard would be news to me. They also rely on ads for funding.
As if Google’s results haven’t been getting worse
Oh they’ve been getting worse for sure but Bing is still worse. I’ve used the Bing index via DuckDuckGo for years and it’s quite bad.
I now use Kagi which uses both Google and Bing indices (among others) and it’s much better and I think most of that is because the Google index is used.
I keep hearing about Kagi, maybe I should try it sometime.
DDG has been quite serviceable to me, however. If I can’t find something I can just add a quick
!gto my already existing query and look it up on Google instead, which I’ve found rather convenient.If I can’t find something I can just add a quick
!gto my already existing query and look it up on Google instead, which I’ve found rather convenient.Yeah I used to do the same (but with
!s).It’s much more convenient to just have good search results to begin with though. Kagi uses the Google index and a few others and you have your own filtering and ranking on top.
In the beginning I felt tempted to do
!sa few times too but the results were always worse, so I quickly unlearned doing that.Executing bangs is also a lot quicker with Kagi; DDG is kind of a slog.
but with
!sIs that built-in, or do you have to configure it yourself? Configuring one is fine, but DDG has quite a few I semi-frequently use (!i, !g, !gi, !yt, !w, !gt), even Google itself feels like a downgrade when I want to search an image and I manually have to click the ‘images’ tab after performing my query.
It’s much more convenient to just have good search results to begin with though
I agree, which is why I’ve been happy to continue using DDG.
Is that built-in, or do you have to configure it yourself
It’s the official bang for Startpage. You can’t configure custom bangs in DDG; Kagi can do that.
I agree, which is why I’ve been happy to continue using DDG.
I’ve found DDG/bing’s results to be quite lacking.
It’s the official bang for Startpage. You can’t configure custom bangs in DDG; Kagi can do that.
Oh, like so. When you said “same” I assumed you meant Google as well, and I found
!sto be an intuitive bang for that. Startpage makes more sense, I know they get their results through Google.I’ve found DDG/bing’s results to be quite lacking.
It seems our experiences have been different, then.
Ecosia, the “green” search engine with AI chat. Perfect match for Firefox, the browser ever more integrated with AI technology.
I’ve just given up on Mozilla, using Cromite after a decade of Firefox/Fennec on desktop and mobile had been such an upgrade.
Id still trust/prefer a firefox based browser than something chromium based. Their are a lot of good firefox forks out their and it helps make googles stranglehold of web standards slower. I wish u luck one manifest v2 gets killed (ik its still supported for some forks of chromium but how long is that gonna last?)
What do you mean by trusting? I trust Mozilla to increase the executives wages at the cost of everybody in the organisation. I trust that they’ll incorporate more and more features I find unwanted. Privacy-wise I haven’t trusted Mozilla since telemetry was opt-out. Security wise I haven’t trusted any browser for decades.
Each to their own, I hope you’re happy with your setup.
Unfortunately it’s more complex than that, because of the issue of the rendering engine. If Firefox-based browsers disappear, the W3C (which controls web standards, including questions of privacy) will be de-facto controlled by a cabal of corporations. The last voice that cares even slightly about our privacy will be gone.
Opt-out telemetry is bad, overpaid executives is bad. The alternative is worse.
With no intention of stirring the pot, this sounds just like the pre-election arguments in favor of Democrats.
The last voice that cares even slightly about our privacy will be gone.
The emphasis here should be on “even slightly” rather than the dramatic effect of “the last voice”.
I mean, if this slice approaches zero, then why it is better to stay with Firefox rather than moving on to more radical solutions?
Indeed, this is just the pragmatism-vs-idealism debate.
I am a pragmatist, you are an idealist. In my view, by asking for everything you are more likely to get nothing. It’s not worth it. It’s irresponsible.
this sounds just like the pre-election arguments in favor of Democrats.
Yes, and excellent arguments they were. What a different world we might live in today if just a handful of idealists had decided to suck it up and vote for the Democrat instead of the third-party purist who made their heart sing.
if this slice approaches zero, then why it is better to stay with Firefox rather than moving on to more radical solutions?
Because history shows that “radical solutions” are almost always a mirage. We already have an excellent browser made by a flawed but generally admirable company. If there are problems, the solution is to fix them, not to burn it all down.
Browser choice and presidential vote are so different from one another as to have no value in their comparison.
If you insist on crapping on third-party US American voters, please do it in the politics community in Lemmy.world.
please do it in the politics community in
To spare you the trauma of hearing an opinion you don’t agree with? Contemporary US politics in a microcosm!
It was not me who made the comparison.
So u dont like group a whats ur solution? Start supporting group b who are way way way worse? Doesnt seem like the brightest idea to me ngl
No, my solution is ditching the entire overbloated web standards we have today and go the small web route where idealists can make useable software without being a giant organisation, targeted both by commercial and state interests.
But that’s not going to happen any more than Mozilla will go back to being a decent org.
There are firefox forks same as their are chromium forks. Librewolf, mull, etc.
I’ve used both Mull and Iceraven on phone, Librewolf on desktop. I went back to stock FF and tweaked it on desktop because it was tuned differently than I wanted - Particularly when it came to dark mode support. On phone I always settled for Iceraven but it’s miles behind chromium forks when it comes to tab management (ironically, FF is miles ahead when it comes to tab management on desktop).
There* are a lot
I wish (yo)u luck when*
ik it’s* still supported
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Correction star has to be placed before the word
I love grammar nazis they really add so much to the disscussion. Doing gods work.
“Ecosia Chat is powered by OpenAI”
ffs
Even the worst default browser on the worst cheap China phone from the worst grey market is an upgrade to mobile Firefox. This is just a dumpster fire since release and Mozilla never cared about it even one single bit. You cannot even set a homepage in this junkware excuse for a browser.
Wouldn’t this upset Google? (who is the biggest revenue source for Mozilla)
Mozilla will probably lose (part of or all of, it’s not clear yet) Google’s funding following their monopoly case, so it’s probably best for them to look for other revenue sources.
They could also stop all this nonsense crap projects they sink money in without any real benefit, and focus mainly on the browser. This would give the browser likely 500% more funding than it has right now.
Have one product, but make it a perfect product.
So after constantly yelling at Mozilla for 10+ years they should do all kinds of things like a VPN, now we no longer find them to experiment to find alternative money sources?
The money sources are not the issue. The money sinks are. An no-one ever yelled at Mozilla to offer a VPN.
The money sources are not the issue
lolwhat
did you miss the part where mozilla depends on mostly google money to survive? which they’ve been trying to correct for years but failed? and now they’re om the verge of losing most of it?
500% more funding than it has right now.
From whom?
Their financial reports are public.
I was waiting for the 2023 forms to drop.
I’m shocked to find out Mitchell Baker has taken a pay cut of ~$600,000, now struggling at a much more relatable $6.2 million instead of $6.9 million
(ETA $600,000 is also her “base” salary, the rest of the $6.2m is her “bonus.” She lost one base salary worth of bonuses last year.)
still, 6 mil is ~10% of their revenue. it’s egregious, but cutting the ceo’s sallary to zero dollars even would solve nothing
That salary could have been redistributed among the employees Mozilla laid off in the Advocacy division, especially right before they published a report claiming Mozilla needed to be known for advocacy and not Firefox. Or put towards Firefox. Or any combination.
Just removing Mitchell Baker’s bonus would already be the majority of that.
Their other projects mostly exist, because those make money. The browser hardly does so, outside of the search engine deals.
Their other projects mostly exist, because those make money.
Except the projects that don’t make money.
Oh, that’s bad. Ecosia won’t even give them a fraction of the revenue google does… I’ve no idea how they’re going to continue going on…
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I’ve been using ecosia for a few months now after ditching duck duck go after long long time .
It’s shit.
I tend to use GPT when I want to find anything.
That’s wild!
Do you get consistently good and accurate website results with GPT?
Consistently good and verifiable. Accuracy is good but not perfect.
What is the point of it?
If you are looking for a DDG alternative Searxng looks pretty good
Ist it just Google or Bing user selectable?